Hi Ryan,

Don't be hasty. What i'm simply saying is that QA is a process and you
need to build feedback into the loop. Developers come and go in an
Open Source development process and you need to build in regression
tests so that when new developers with new ideas come along, they
don't break code, or quickly realize what they have done after they
have run basic regression tests.

I also think that PHP developers are doing a fine job, but I don't think
there is anything wrong in pointing out where they can improve, rather
than apologize wholesale.

Regards, John

"Ryan Jameson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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We will agree to disagree. I've experienced many testers who thought things
that you think. They were often the most cocky and least effective of the
hundreds I've worked with on projects, and again every product I've worked
with from Microsoft to Oracle to Java have had similar issues arise. I think
the PHP developers are doing a fine job, even if I do have to skip a
release, I've got my money on this being fixed in the next release.

<>< Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: John Lim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [PHP-DB] ODBC problem in 4.2.0


Hi Ryan,

It's not true that this can happen to any product. PHP is a fantastic
language, but
there are well-known ways to manage QA. All it needs is to include ODBC
in the standard php regression test suite (and run the suite regularly!)

Regards, John

"Ryan Jameson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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BTW... I'd just like to point out that this kind of thing is bound to happen
no matter what product you use. I'm certain the PHP guys will have this
solved in no time and I'd bet even they would recommend a commercial hosting
service be willing and able to step back if a problem like this occurs. This
is, however, just an opinion.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ryan Jameson (USA)
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 8:14 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [PHP-DB] ODBC problem in 4.2.0



I'd recommend finding a hosting service that would be more careful about
making upgrades. There seems to be some problems with ODBC in 4.2 and I have
yet to hear of a work around, especially not one you can implement if you
don't handle your own server. I feel your pain man! Fortunately for me I can
just stay at 4.1.1 until there's a release that works.

<>< Ryan


-----Original Message-----
From: Mihai Tache [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [PHP-DB] ODBC problem in 4.2.0


i work on a website that runs on php with MSSQL through ODBC.
until 4.2.0 everything was ok. but my hosting provider just upgraded to
4.2.0
the error message i get is :

SQL error: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Connection is busy with
results for another hstmt, SQL state S1000 in SQLExecDirect in ....

take the folowing code for example :

<?
$res=odbc_exec($conn,"select * from ...");
for($i=1;odbc_fetch_row($res);$i++)
{
$res2=odbc_exec($conn,"select * from ....");
...
}
?>

the first odbc query runs OK but i get the error at the second one and ONLY
if the first one returned more than one row.
i even tried with 2 ODBC connections but doesn't work
MS has something to say about this at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q143032
don't know if that is really the problem or not. i don't know how i can set
ODBC (from php) to be synchronous anyway.
the fact is that the same scripts worked fine 6h ago on 4.1.1 and 4.0.6
(both on win32).
i'd go back to 4.1.1 but i'm forced to work with 4.2.0 as i said
is there something i can do except wait for 4.2.1 ?




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