On Wednesday 04 July 2001 17:12, Brian Moon wrote:
> FWIW, I am +1 on PHP5.  There are a lot of things in the language that need
> to be cleaned up.  People here more familiar with other closed languages
> have gotten confused about things like case, underscores, haystack and
> needle, the way some array functions return an array and some modify the
> passed array.  There is just a lot of stuff like that.

I'm all for making the radical changes at 5.0, its just that it seems like 
Zeev is keen on a shortish timeframe for the new engine, whereas I suspect 
that tidying up the language will take quite a bit longer.

FWIW my vote is for us to make a concerted start on tidying the language with 
a realistic time frame of <guess> 1 year. If the new Zend engine is going to 
be ready much sooner than that, and it will only affect OO stuff and the 
business of accessing individual characters in strings, then that change 
should be to 4.1. If the engine is going to take a year, then we'll have a 
big pile of stuff to launch as 5.0

Phil Driscoll

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