Well, I think to start with someone or multiple people need to take a look
at the PHP code and figure out just exactly what we want to do to it.  I can
help out.  I am pretty sure that Daniel Beckham will as well.  As far as I
know, we want to:

1. convert all function names to a standard naming convention.
2. convert all function params to a standard order.
3. get rid of old aliased functions.
4. Make sure all return codes are consistent.  Some are 1 or 0 some are true
or false.

What else is there?  I am sure there is more.

Brian Moon
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Andi Gutmans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Brian Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "php
developers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 4:53 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php 4.1 or php 5.0

> I think both for Zend 2 and for the cleanup version of PHP (if they happen
> at the same time or not) it is important to come up with how to do the
> development. We can either work in a branch or create a new CVS tree.
> They both have their pros & cons, but especially for the PHP CVS which is
> moving target it's going to be hard to make a cleanup and keep the patches
> in sync with the "being cleaned" version. It'll be easier for Zend because
> it is very stable and doesn't change very much.
> Any ideas?
> Andi
> At 05:27 PM 7/4/2001 +0100, Phil Driscoll wrote:
> >On Wednesday 04 July 2001 17:12, Brian Moon wrote:
> > > FWIW, I am +1 on PHP5.  There are a lot of things in the language that
> > > to be cleaned up.  People here more familiar with other closed
> > > have gotten confused about things like case, underscores, haystack and
> > > needle, the way some array functions return an array and some modify
> > > passed array.  There is just a lot of stuff like that.
> >
> >
> >I'm all for making the radical changes at 5.0, its just that it seems
> >Zeev is keen on a shortish timeframe for the new engine, whereas I
> >that tidying up the language will take quite a bit longer.
> >
> >FWIW my vote is for us to make a concerted start on tidying the language
> >a realistic time frame of <guess> 1 year. If the new Zend engine is going
> >be ready much sooner than that, and it will only affect OO stuff and the
> >business of accessing individual characters in strings, then that change
> >should be to 4.1. If the engine is going to take a year, then we'll have
> >big pile of stuff to launch as 5.0
> >
> >Cheers
> >--
> >Phil Driscoll
> >
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