Resending as we only got one answer...

Andi

>Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2001 00:53:47 +0300
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],"Brian Moon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>  "php developers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: Andi Gutmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php 4.1 or php 5.0
>
>I think both for Zend 2 and for the cleanup version of PHP (if they happen 
>at the same time or not) it is important to come up with how to do the 
>development. We can either work in a branch or create a new CVS tree.
>They both have their pros & cons, but especially for the PHP CVS which is 
>a moving target it's going to be hard to make a cleanup and keep the 
>patches in sync with the "being cleaned" version. It'll be easier for Zend 
>because it is very stable and doesn't change very much.
>Any ideas?
>
>Andi
>
>At 05:27 PM 7/4/2001 +0100, Phil Driscoll wrote:
>>On Wednesday 04 July 2001 17:12, Brian Moon wrote:
>> > FWIW, I am +1 on PHP5.  There are a lot of things in the language that 
>> need
>> > to be cleaned up.  People here more familiar with other closed languages
>> > have gotten confused about things like case, underscores, haystack and
>> > needle, the way some array functions return an array and some modify the
>> > passed array.  There is just a lot of stuff like that.
>>
>>
>>I'm all for making the radical changes at 5.0, its just that it seems like
>>Zeev is keen on a shortish timeframe for the new engine, whereas I suspect
>>that tidying up the language will take quite a bit longer.
>>
>>FWIW my vote is for us to make a concerted start on tidying the language with
>>a realistic time frame of <guess> 1 year. If the new Zend engine is going to
>>be ready much sooner than that, and it will only affect OO stuff and the
>>business of accessing individual characters in strings, then that change
>>should be to 4.1. If the engine is going to take a year, then we'll have a
>>big pile of stuff to launch as 5.0
>>
>>Cheers
>>--
>>Phil Driscoll
>>
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