On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 03:40:15PM +0300, Andrey Hristov wrote: > > > > I really have to fight within the company i work to keep PHP. Do you know what PHP >really needs? Good native XML and SOAP > support.. > > Without that it's very hard to convince my boss that PHP is the right tool for the >job. > > > > I develop for a living. And i'm not only programming in PHP. I do also Java, VB, >C# and a little C. And i have to say that even > with the high license costs of Microsoft, they are providing a solid developer base >with good support from MSDN and Technet. You > can't around it and that is why my boss want to use .NET. Ever saw an ad for PHP?? >You don't read of PHP. > > The XML-RPC extension supports SOAP at some point and it is transparent to the user. >No matter if it is XMLRPC request or SOAP > request one thing is done. Of course it is not final and relies on the xmlrpc-epi >library, thus the extension is just a wrapper. > Probably some efforts can be made in the development of xmlrpc-epi. I am sorry that >I am not too proficient in C otherwise I would > help. > But reading an article on /. and one on ZDnet about web services disturbed me >because IBM and MS may patent some of the roots of web > services. As You may know MS was one of the companies which helped the evolvement of >XMLRPC and its extension SOAP.
I know that there are RPC and SOAP classes. But that is not the point that i wanted to make. What i'm trying to say is that companies never hear about PHP. OK, they hear about the MIME bug and did you know what my boss said?? You see, PHP is just as bad as ASP, so why use PHP and not ASP? But only having the classes and documentation for it isn't enough these days. PHP is getting behind on .NET and Java(2). But i love PHP. I see it as C for the web. I use a C writing style, weird anough java extending, and i compile it (Zend encoder). And PHP is more multi platform than Java (ok, php won't run on your microwave). It's a hard world for a PHP developer in an Microsoft company/world. I only think that SOAP support should be native and must have a much better XML support (Ever looked at the MSXML parser). Than it might be able to compete with .NET and Java. And next week i have a special C# traning for PHP developers. Offered free by Microsoft. And because these type of actions of Microsoft i'm lossing grip on my boss to use PHP. So please, keep PHP the best! Dave Mertens -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php