Well lets not drift off into a discussion which solution is more
feasible.
I think it can't be disputed that xmlrpc also has its followers and
therefore should see some support that would fit best into a mailinglist
with soap.

Best regards,
Lukas Smith
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: brad lafountain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 11:29 PM
> To: Stig S. Bakken; Andi Gutmans
> Cc: phpsurf; Markus Wolff; Lukas Smith; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> 
> One reason is xmlrpc doesn't have everything that goes along with
soap.
> meaning WSDL UDDI WebServiceSecurity.
> 
>  and as far as i understand that xmlrpc doesn't work on windows.
> 
>  and with some benchmarks phpsoap so far was 3 times as fast as
xmlrpc.
> 
> 
>  - Brad
> 
> --- "Stig S. Bakken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > PHP already has SOAP support bundled in the xmlrpc extension, which
is
> > built upon the xmlrpc-epi library that we bundle.  Why can't people
> > improve that instead of re-inventing more wheels in all shapes and
> > sizes?  When we bundle a library, we should use it.
> >
> >  - Stig
> >
> > On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 17:52, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> > > I think it's important to have a main stream soap implementation
> bundled
> > > with PHP and not a zillion different implementations floating
around.
> > > If there is enough interest we could setup a Soap mailing list
where
> > > interested people could cooperate possibly basing the "official"
PHP
> Soap
> > > implementation on existing work, for example, Brad's work. As I
> personally
> > > don't have the knowledge nor the time I'm just making the
suggestion
> :)
> > > It's up to people who are interested in this topic to move it
forward.
> > > I think it would be extremely beneficial to PHP.
> > > Andi
> > >
> > > At 17:52 23/05/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
> > > >hi
> > > >
> > > >brad lafountain is working on a Soap extension which is not far
from
> being
> > > >stable.
> > > >he made a good use of WSDL ...
> > > >
> > > >you should have look to
> http://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/phpsoap/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Markus Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: jeudi 23 mai 2002 15:29
> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb "Lukas Smith"
> > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > > >
> > > > > > What is the current status in terms of SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
in
> php?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How mature are the solutions?
> > > > > > When will they be ready for primetime?
> > > > > > Does anyone already use them in production (that can be used
to
> show
> > off
> > > > > > how great the support is) or are there any other prominent
> examples?
> > (I
> > > > > > know the pear installer uses XMLRPC and Sebastian did
something
> with
> > > > > > Googles Webservices)
> > > > >
> > > > > We´ve been trying to make a PEAR::SOAP webservice talk to a
VB.NET
> SOAP
> > > > > client. It does work very well when you stick to passing most
> primitive
> > > > > datatypes around: Strings, Integers, Floats, Booleans ...
> > > > >
> > > > > It stops being fun when you´re trying more complex structures
like
> > > > > resultsets from SQL-Queries. Those could be represented and
passed
> via
> > > > > SOAP as two-dimensional arrays, and in theory you could either
use
> a
> > > > > loosely typed two-dimensional array or an array of struct to
> represent
> > > > > that data in the VB.NET client - but we did not yet manage to
make
> the
> > > > > client recognize and deserialize the SOAP data from the PHP
> script.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have not the slightest idea where to start looking. I´ve
read
> tons of
> > > > > articles on SOAP and WSDL, but all in all, the quality of
> documentation
> > > > > on this topic sucks.
> > > > >
> > > > > PEAR::SOAP itself is as good as undocumented (at least the
server
> part)
> > > > > and the documentation for .NET webservices mostly talks about
> > connecting
> > > > > an ASP.NET webservice to a C# or VB.NET client. When it comes
to
> making
> > > > > SOAP calls to a client/server on another software platform, or
> even if
> > > > > you just want to use SOAP-RPC encoding instead of the default
> > > > > Document/Literal encoding that .NET does, the documentation is
> very
> > > > > uncomplete.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thing is, you _have_ to use SOAP-RPC encoding because
PEAR::SOAP
> does
> > > > > not yet support Document/Literal (in fact, Microsoft seem to
be
> the
> > only
> > > > > ones who use this encoding method by default or even fully
support
> it).
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess when it comes to maturity, all available
implementations
> in any
> > > > > language still have a long way to go.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >   Markus
> > > > >
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