PHP already has SOAP support bundled in the xmlrpc extension, which is
built upon the xmlrpc-epi library that we bundle.  Why can't people
improve that instead of re-inventing more wheels in all shapes and
sizes?  When we bundle a library, we should use it.

 - Stig

On Thu, 2002-05-23 at 17:52, Andi Gutmans wrote:
> I think it's important to have a main stream soap implementation bundled 
> with PHP and not a zillion different implementations floating around.
> If there is enough interest we could setup a Soap mailing list where 
> interested people could cooperate possibly basing the "official" PHP Soap 
> implementation on existing work, for example, Brad's work. As I personally 
> don't have the knowledge nor the time I'm just making the suggestion :) 
> It's up to people who are interested in this topic to move it forward.
> I think it would be extremely beneficial to PHP.
> Andi
> 
> At 17:52 23/05/2002 +0200, phpsurf wrote:
> >hi
> >
> >brad lafountain is working on a Soap extension which is not far from being
> >stable.
> >he made a good use of WSDL ...
> >
> >you should have look to http://phpsoaptoolkit.sourceforge.net/phpsoap/
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Markus Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: jeudi 23 mai 2002 15:29
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PEAR-DEV] SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL
> > >
> > >
> > > Am Thu, 23 May 2002 14:57:45 +0200 schrieb "Lukas Smith"
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > >
> > > > What is the current status in terms of SOAP, XMLRPC and WSDL in php?
> > > >
> > > > How mature are the solutions?
> > > > When will they be ready for primetime?
> > > > Does anyone already use them in production (that can be used to show off
> > > > how great the support is) or are there any other prominent examples? (I
> > > > know the pear installer uses XMLRPC and Sebastian did something with
> > > > Googles Webservices)
> > >
> > > We´ve been trying to make a PEAR::SOAP webservice talk to a VB.NET SOAP
> > > client. It does work very well when you stick to passing most primitive
> > > datatypes around: Strings, Integers, Floats, Booleans ...
> > >
> > > It stops being fun when you´re trying more complex structures like
> > > resultsets from SQL-Queries. Those could be represented and passed via
> > > SOAP as two-dimensional arrays, and in theory you could either use a
> > > loosely typed two-dimensional array or an array of struct to represent
> > > that data in the VB.NET client - but we did not yet manage to make the
> > > client recognize and deserialize the SOAP data from the PHP script.
> > >
> > > I have not the slightest idea where to start looking. I´ve read tons of
> > > articles on SOAP and WSDL, but all in all, the quality of documentation
> > > on this topic sucks.
> > >
> > > PEAR::SOAP itself is as good as undocumented (at least the server part)
> > > and the documentation for .NET webservices mostly talks about connecting
> > > an ASP.NET webservice to a C# or VB.NET client. When it comes to making
> > > SOAP calls to a client/server on another software platform, or even if
> > > you just want to use SOAP-RPC encoding instead of the default
> > > Document/Literal encoding that .NET does, the documentation is very
> > > uncomplete.
> > >
> > > Thing is, you _have_ to use SOAP-RPC encoding because PEAR::SOAP does
> > > not yet support Document/Literal (in fact, Microsoft seem to be the only
> > > ones who use this encoding method by default or even fully support it).
> > >
> > > I guess when it comes to maturity, all available implementations in any
> > > language still have a long way to go.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >   Markus
> > >
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