--- Dan Kalowsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 30 May 2002, brad lafountain wrote: > > > I personally will take responsiblity for bundling and upgrading it. > > Brad, > > Nothing personal (so please don't take it that way), but in my opinion > this isn't a good enough assurance. Historically you will see people > come and people go with Open Source development, and while you have a lot > of free time to do this now, N months from now will you?
Free Time? Who says i have that? Months from now I honistly can't say what i'll be doing. For all I know i could get hit by a car. I don't plan on ditching my contributions anytime soon. But I don't see my contributions a factor in deciding if we should bundle libxml. We are only talking about a few cvs commands here! We aren't talking about a huge effort. > > As Rasmus stated earlier the reason the MySQL stuff is bundled is due to > an assurance from the MySQL developers to keep it updated. They know > their code inside and out. I'm not familiar with what you do or don't > know, or what development you're active in either. Unless you were/are an > active developer on the libxml code, the ability to introduce bugs > completely dependent to the PHP bundle is increased considerably due to > bad merges. I don't see bad merges a problem here. It's not like I would be applying patches or getting the latest and greates from libxml's cvs. Peridocially someone would just need to update the source files from the 'newest' release. But as I explained before besides bug fixes and speed increases you wouldn't get much from keeping totally up to date with the bundled libxml. And again.. its not like we are forcing the version on the user nor making it an inconvenionce for them if they already have libxml installed. > > I really see little to no advantage to this bundling yet. Only > increasingly more reasons not to do this. I really dont see this. I don't know how much developement other people do but use xml/xml techiologies on a daily basis. I see this is the trend of many developers but I obvisouly cant speak for them. The ability to build outta the box is also what many system admins what to see, maybe not the hacker ones but the ones who "just get the job done". I also know alot of managers that will pay for software just cuase it runs outta the box. No needing to depend on other software is installed. So with thoes two statements it makes total sence to go thru the process of bundling something as important as libxml. Ok we bundle gd... gd is very usefull for many sites/applications but common don't you feel that xml is a little bit more important than gd? The only downside here is the filesize of the source dist and a few developers already commented that it's not that big of a deal. Seriously we bundle expat why wouldn't we bundle libxml. It's way more usefull than expat. - Brad __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
