From: Ilker Cetinkaya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> but after getting known of the ze2 features, I personally saw PHP finally
> growing out of that "PHP, language for kiddies"-image.
> IMHO PHP is a real good language for its target purpose, but it has
> potential to be much better.

PHP is a nicely done scripting language.  Scripting languages tend to
be easier to get into, easier to make changes with, and do a good job
of gluing disparate components together.  

Java is a compiled language.  Good for building complex tightly knit
applications at the higher end of the performance spectrum.  For tasks
that could be done with a scripting language, the implementation cost
is usually higher in Java.

C++ is a lower level compiled language.  Good for getting every last
bit of performance possible out of the hardware.  Also good for complex
tightly knit applications - but at an even higher development cost.

Think of each as a different tool in your toolbox.  You choose the
tool to fit the job at hand.  A screwdriver is not a "kiddie" hammer.
Each is well suited for different kinds of tasks.

To extend the metaphor - think of an all-in-one tool - a combination
of hammer and screwdriver, say.  In trying to combine the two tools
meant for different purposes you end up with something that is neither
a particularly good hammer, or a particularly good screwdriver.

So the focus on improving PHP in the role as a scripting language 
(not trying to make PHP into Java or C++) makes a great deal of sense.


> my 2c and may this topic never arise again,

Amen :)

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