Dan Hardiker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Unless Im missing the mark - for which I appologise. The PHP Group as a
> whole seems to have mixed feelings on this issue - could there be some
> form of concensus so that I (and many others on this list) can work out if
> the requested extra functionality is either ruled out, in for PHP version
> x, or undecided and under continued debate. I think all sides have made
> their opinions crystal clear.

'The PHP Group' does not control the vision for what will go into php
version x. people actually willing to pitch in and do the work do. 'The
PHP Group' has absolutely zero leverage to get anybody to do any work.

i think people who think that 'The PHP Group' is some grand leadership
council that is plotting the technical direction of the php project
would be sorely disappointed if they were to read all of the mail traded
over [EMAIL PROTECTED] over the last year. the vast majority of it is
dealing with sysadmin stuff, and there was some discussion around
adopting smarty as a subproject within the php project (and how we want
to handle future projects that ask for that consideration). i can't
remember the last time we've had a technical discussion of any real
substance on [EMAIL PROTECTED] we've basically moved all of those
discussions here.

i think the resistance that people think they feel with regard to things
like "making more php have more oo features" has more to do with some
developers not willing to be told what features to implement than a
notion of those features being a terrible idea. (some of us may think
some are a bad idea, but working code can be very persuasive. lots of
arguing and handwaving isn't.)

jim

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