Sure (as i did reckon most of what you said in my email) but i dont think there is anything wrong in any user coming out and asking the community what their intentions are going forward. CVS only reflects the situation so far.
For example: In our case we deliver PHP as part of our free HP Apache distribution and we get requests from end users asking for so and so PHP extension. It is natural for us (or anybody like us) to come back to this mailing list and ask similar questions to get an idea of where things may be headed. Perhaps it might be nicer to reckon the CURRENT absence of any active development/plans by the ones in the know, rather than flaming over it and giving out bogus estimates to users casually inquiring about it. After all, most of us users (hopefully) realize that there is only finite amount of work that can be done by developers in their free time. As a suggestion : It may be a good idea to reconsider the bundling (and continued bundling in the future) of extensions that are unlikely to get out of expermimental stage due to lack developer activity and/or interest for such extended periods. Else such questions and flame replies simply become more common and benefit no one. --Roshan > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Kalowsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 2:49 PM > To: NAIK,ROSHAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1) > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] sockets extension > > > Because the user can see how active such functionality is by > looking at > the CVS logs, and doing a search on php-dev conversations. > > While the authors have decided to mark it experimental doesn't mean it > will ever not be experimental. > > Not to continue a "flame war", but this is Open Source, and > it is done on > free time. Because you the user feels you'd like to use such > functionality it's not typically a concern for the developers. Often > times this functionality is added to make their own lives > easier, or to > try an experiment with something. Take a look at the iD > software policy: > it'll be ready when it's ready. Thats all there is to it :) > > > On Mon, 9 Sep 2002, NAIK,ROSHAN (HP-Cupertino,ex1) wrote: > > > > > > > > > Between 15 days and 15 months. > > > > Looking at the CVS its been 19 months since the EXPERMENTAL > file was last > > modified for sockets. > > > > No offense intended but, sometimes people dont seem to like > to be asked such > > "obvious" questions by users. I realize that people in open > source are not > > working for money but this attitude may be a little extreme. > > > > The obvious meaning behind the question was "is this piece > under active > > development?". > > Users like to know such things so that they can have > reasonable expectations > > from what they are using or make alternate plans. And this > list is the most > > reasonable place for asking something like that. > > > > Bundling functionality into the distribution and tagging them as > > experimental...its a way of giving end users hope to see > something concrete > > sooner or later...so why flame over it when the user comes > back asking "how > > it is doing" ? > > > > --Roshan > > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------< > Dan Kalowsky "I'll walk a thousand miles just > http://www.deadmime.org/~dank to slip this skin." > [EMAIL PROTECTED] - "Streets of Philadelphia", > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bruce Springstreen > -- PHP Development Mailing List <http://www.php.net/> To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
