The dev-adv part of the secretaries role was part of the initial bylaw that created the post. It doesn't seem to have caused an issue so far this year, so I see no reason to be hasty in changing it. Let's let the FIG 3 changes settle in first. The CC may render that Secretary task unnecessary, or not.
Let's leave it alone for now and revisit the question in the spring sometime, once we see how the CC/Secretary split plays out. We'll be able to make a more informed decision then.
--Larry Garfield
On Oct 22, 2016 1:49 PM, Michael Cullum <m...@michaelcullum.com> wrote:
--Gary,A vote is unlikely right now for reasons previously stated previously in this thread by voting members and in https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/php-fig/Rf1Xfgix3Cw.Finally, there is a general strong recommendation that whilst PSR approval or Errata votes might take place over the next three months, we’d strongly recommend waiting for the new structure to be implemented on the 1st January before any other kind of vote takes place. We are now in an odd kind of limbo state and membership votes, changes to FIG 3.0 and other parts of bylaws or entrance votes might be best to wait until the new structure is in place; especially seeing as the bylaws have changed how these votes actually take place and the voting franchise, but those people are not entirely yet in place to vote on those things. This isn’t a rule, it's not in the bylaws and Secretaries don't have the power to stop votes, we are simply recommending holding off on such votes to avoid confusion over who should be voting on the different measures and debate on such issues.A vote being done right now would be complicated as we're going through the process of member projects still declaring if they wish to remain member projects but we don't define when this takes effect. There is no hard rule against votes on bylaw changes but it's strongly recommended against (just like the 2-week discussion on votes) due to its complication and nobody objected to implementing this as a general rule when it was suggested.There is nothing wrong however with putting this to a vote in January if those responsible for opening bylaw change votes feel it necessary then.--Michael CFIG SecretaryOn 22 October 2016 at 18:18, Gary Hockin <gary.hockin@jetbrains.com> wrote:As a developer advocate, my job is not to be responsible for the company website or Twitter, and I believe that an advocate's role is more of one of promotion and interaction with customers, which I honestly do not think is important for the role of a FIG secretary. At this point I see only Michael speaking/blogging about the group from his own accounts, and therefore being a developer advocate for the FIG, but I think both other secretaries are doing a fine job despite them not submitting talks about the group.
Could a voting member please open a vote on this PR please?
Gary
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