> This is an application concern IMO, much like the management of multiple
cache pools, etc.

Yeah, for some types of cache-servers, flushing expired entries on-demand
may not even be a thing - so this is likely outside the scope of what
should be interoperable, as this kind of functionality is
implementation-specific.

Oh, and here's a simple flat-file cache-implementation:

https://github.com/kodus/file-cache

It's complete, but will of course change with the coming interface updates.

I don't know if there are any other flat implementations of PSR-16 cache
out there? I don't see any on Packagist. So this might be helpful as a
real-world case.

One other thing, about the documentation and meta... it all sounds like
PSR-16 was designed to be a layer on top of PSR-6? It almost sounds as
though PSR-16 *depends* upon PSR-6?

That seems really wrong. I mean, PSR-16 is complete within it's own scope,
and has no dependency on PSR-6 whatsoever - it's perfectly feasible to make
PSR-16 libraries stand alone.

I think it's great if the meta/doc states that it was designed with PSR-6
compatibility in mind, making it possible to bridge PSR-6 to PSR-16, but
both the doc and meta at the moment make it sound like that's it's only
purpose...

I personally view it as a simple alternative to PSR-6, not a layer that I'm
going to put over it. (I don't want to hide complexity - I want to remove
it and simplify.)

Has a PSR-6 to PSR-16 bridge been implemented?


On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Jordi Boggiano <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 28/11/2016 09:51, Rasmus Schultz wrote:
>
>> What about garbage collection?
>>
>> I know that some cache-servers may take care of this automatically, but
>> for something like a file-based cache, it needs to get triggered.
>>
>> Is it just left up to each implementation to take care of this in
>> whatever way they need to?
>>
>
> Yes :) This is an application concern IMO, much like the management of
> multiple cache pools, etc.
>
> If you read again my post from 4 years ago [1], PSRs I find are largely
> beneficial for libraries and not for frameworks/applications. Applications
> are in control, but libraries have no control and are dropped in random
> contexts. It kinda bums me out that many still don't seem to understand
> that (or just don't see it that way?).
>
> It's unfortunate that FIG has framework in its name because it is highly
> misleading, but down the line Framework-level Interoperability means having
> interoperable libraries more than frameworks being able to interact with
> each other.
>
> [1] https://seld.be/notes/one-logger-to-rule-them-all
>
> Cheers
>
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