Is this the right forum for putting forward examples of our own work as
potential candidates? I’ve been working on one under the name event interop
(much as PSR-11 was born from) but it seems we all have similar ideas.
Shall we start showing some code examples?

-- 
Barney Hanlon

On 13 March 2018 at 14:08:43, Benjamin Mack (benjamin.m...@gmail.com) wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> I've been meaning to share my feedback for quite some time on that.
>
> We've looked into different implementations a lot and we (TYPO3 dev) would
> only consider Event Manager if we're talking about immutable events. And
> event is triggered, could have parameters, but the event itself should not
> allow to alter parameters.
>
> A classic example in our project is to change/modify values before storing
> them in a RDMS - this is not an event. Modifying a request object is not
> the job of an event listener. Of course, if you hand over objects as
> parameters, it's hard to enforce that they are kept as they are.
> Events to modifying parameters is a different pattern, and we should aim
> to differentiate between them.
>
> Once this is in the mind-set, an event (and event system) is actually very
> simple - also ordering is not _as_ important anymore (for our use-cases).
> However, it showed that an event system is only half of the business, and
> that it should be accompanied by a hooking system.
>
> Basically we consider three different use cases:
> - Events (Immutable) - "Hey, I just persisted something" then we could
> flush Caches
> - Filters / Pipelines - "Here is some data, go and enrich it" - then we
> could have plugins of a framework modify or add metadata to the records,
> based on the current request.
> - Filters / Interceptors - If one of the "listeners" actually says" no,
> you can't do that", the following action should not be called - like a
> permission system.
>
> I'm happy to join the WG to make the PSR-14 as event manager ready,
> however, I do believe that we should start thinking more.
>
> All the best,
> Benni.
>
> On 13. Mar 2018, at 14:38, Niels Braczek <nbrac...@bsds.de> wrote:
>
> Am 13.03.2018 um 10:58 schrieb Barney Hanlon:
>
> I would recommend that setParam or indeed any setting of properties be out
> of the spec. In my opinion, Events and Commands should both be immutable,
> but people are open to implement configuration post-construction if they
> wish. But if the spec defines these, then the spec is defining the payload
> of them as mutable. That doesn’t strike me as a good idea.
>
>
> +1
>
> Regards,
> Niels
>
> --
> | New Stars on the Horizon: GreenCape · nibralab · laJoom |
> | http://www.bsds.de · BSDS Braczek Software- und DatenSysteme |
> | Webdesign · Webhosting · e-Commerce · Joomla! Content Management |
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups
> "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group.
> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
> email to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/9af851fb-a53b-8a3d-6b0c-f7b8012c98cf%40bsds.de.
>
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>
>
> --
> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the
> Google Groups "PHP Framework Interoperability Group" group.
> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/php-fig/EwCZ9ritJcA/unsubscribe.
> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to
> php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
> To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com.
> To view this discussion on the web visit
> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/5C39045D-3C58-44F8-ACBD-3E519BA7B869%40gmail.com.
>
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "PHP 
Framework Interoperability Group" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email 
to php-fig+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to php-fig@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit 
https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/php-fig/CALKGMgfC0NYhiGSdnUJoWnmW6ZEo%2BfnqaMK9ORAFpD1gO%3DXm%2BA%40mail.gmail.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

Reply via email to