-:-  -----Original Message-----
-:-  From: Carlos Medina [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-:-  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 2:48 PM
-:-  To: php-general@lists.php.net
-:-  Subject: Re: [PHP] Manual Coding vs. CMS Systems
-:-
-:-  Auto-Deppe, C. Haensel schrieb:
-:-  > -:-  -----Original Message-----
-:-  > -:-  From: Jochem Maas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-:-  > -:-  Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2008 1:46 PM
-:-  > -:-  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
-:-  > -:-  Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
-:-  > -:-  Subject: Re: [PHP] Manual Coding vs. CMS Systems
-:-  > -:-
-:-  > -:-  Auto-Deppe, C. Haensel schreef:
-:-  > -:-  > Hi all!
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  > And again, a slightly off topic subject for you all from
-:-  > -:-  yours truly :o)
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  > I have a "customer" (helicopter company) who is willing
-:-  > -:-  to give me some free
-:-  > -:-  > flights for a small website.
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  > Now, I have been talking to my sister in law who is a
-:-  > -:-  designer (note:
-:-  > -:-  > designer, not coder). She said I should be using Joomla
-:-  > -:-  or something of that
-:-  > -:-  > sort and change it to fit my needs.
-:-  > -:-
-:-  > -:-  designers should keep their mouths shut when it comes to
-:-  > -:-  code/coding ...
-:-  > -:-  I don't care if she's your sister or the queen of england.
-:-  > -:-
-:-  > -:-  do we tell them what to draw? not if your smart, if your
-:-  > -:-  smart you'll only
-:-  > -:-  ever tell them when something is impossible to implement
-:-  > -:-  ("this-is-the-web-not-a-sheet-of-A4"),
-:-  > -:-  or when something is not cost effective to implement (i.e.
-:-  > -:-  the client will never
-:-  > -:-  agree to pay for X)
-:-  > -:-
-:-  > -:-  make your own mind up as to what is the most
-:-  effective solution.
-:-  > -:-
-:-  > -:-  > I, on the other hand, am more into using my own code,
-:-  > -:-  starting with the
-:-  > -:-  > first "Hello World" and ending up being a full fledged
-:-  > -:-  CMS with just the
-:-  > -:-  > functions the customer needs. I have a lot of code in my
-:-  > -:-  code database
-:-  > -:-  > already, so it would be a lot of copy and paste and a
-:-  > -:-  bit of coding. I think
-:-  > -:-  > the whole thing will take about 60 work hours.
-:-  > -:-
-:-  > -:-  Im guessing you'd spend that much time just implementing a
-:-  > -:-  decent design into
-:-  > -:-  a Joomla or whatever. I mean a design that doesn't look
-:-  > -:-  like it was generated
-:-  > -:-  by Frontpage.
-:-  > -:-
-:-  > -:-  > I am into hand coding, to be honest. Using Joomla or
-:-  > -:-  other CMS systems is
-:-  > -:-  > fine, but I want this to be a nice point on my CV if I
-:-  > -:-  ever need to get a
-:-  > -:-  > new job. And, most important to me, it _feels_ much
-:-  > -:-  better to have it done
-:-  > -:-  > from scratch all by yourself, doesn't it?
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  > So, I would love to hear your opinion on this. Sorry for
-:-  > -:-  being a bit off
-:-  > -:-  > topic here as this is not 100% coding related, but I
-:-  > -:-  _had_ to get some
-:-  > -:-  > feedback to backup my position ;o)
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  > Cheers!
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  > Chris
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-  >
-:-  > -:-
-:-  > -:-
-:-  >
-:-  > Hahaha.. THAT one told exactly what I feel! Thanks!!!! :o)))
-:-  >
-:-  > Also a big thanks to the others who already replied.
-:-  Waiting for more on
-:-  > that.... Great one Jochem!!
-:-  >
-:-  >
-:-  Kids
-:-
-:-  Carlos
-:-


Watch him go... there is Carloooooos, the man infront of all the others. He
is WAY ahead, and he is gaining more and more speed. He is an adult, and he
is sooooooo adult that he can't even take a laugh... see him run from the
humor! Faster and faster he runs... and there it is: the goal: an open
casket for the people going through life without having a good laugh every
now and then :o))))

Aaaaaaanyhow... *grabs his coffee and keeps working while shaking his head
because of the stupid comment posted by Carlos*

Cheers :o))))



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