Hi, Elbert I personally would remove the set_error_handler completely. This is a configuration that the administrator has to handle himself. In a development-env they want to see all errors, warnings etc, yes - even a strict_notice. But in a production-env they dont want to show anything to the user - just show a general error if something really heavy happened. You can put that in the index.php but I'd wrap it in comments or remove it.
In my opinion it's a good idea to move the autoloader into the index.php. Then you can even call your app class using the autoloader ;) I'm just curious what exactly you want to try with the plugins ... Should they simply be extensions or also possibilities to extend other plugins? I also wrote my own framework 3 years ago and was more about making things way more complex than they could be just to think about maximum flexibility .. I pretty much also like the no-config part. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_over_configuration Bye Simon 2012/2/12 Elbert F <i...@elbertf.com> > Hi Simon, > > I think you're right that I may be abusing the constructor a bit. I'm > going to follow your suggestion and split it up into smaller functions. I'm > also thinking of moving the set_error_handler and spl_autoload_register > functions to index.php where Swiftlet is bootstrapped so they can be > changed. > > You make another good point about the model; it's never supposed to access > the controller or view. I updated the code to reflect this. It should work > like your second > flowchart<http://betterexplained.com/wp-content/uploads/rails/mvc-rails.png>(perhaps > with the added concept of plugins, which can hook into anything). > > Symfony's routing is nice, many smaller frameworks take a similar approach > (e.g. Sinatra <http://www.sinatrarb.com/> and ToroPHP<http://toroweb.org/>). > However, I like the fact that Swiftlet requires no configuration. Just drop > in your class and it works. The file structure and classes already do a > good job describing themselves. > > Excellent feedback, thanks! > > Elbert > > > > On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:53 PM, Simon Schick < > simonsimc...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, Elbert >> >> I've looked through the code and found it quite tiny :) I like that. >> >> Until now I found some things that I'd like to discuss with you: >> >> In the class App you're doing all the stuff (routing, calling the >> constructor aso) in the constructor. Would it not be better to have >> separate functions for that? I like the way I learned from using Java: The >> constructor is only for initializing the variables you need to execute the >> other functions of this class. >> Of course you can have a function that then calls all those small >> functions and maybe directly return the output. >> >> I dislike the way you treat with the model .. currently it gets the >> controller, the view and the app itself. If you ask me the model only needs >> some configuration. I cannot come up with an idea where you'd need more >> than a connection-string and some additional settings. The model has >> several methods to gather the data that has been requested and gives it >> back. If you'd ask me, there's no need for interaction with the app, >> controller or view. >> >> I'd like to see an option for the router like the one I've seen in >> symfony2 ... that was quite nice .. There you can define a regexp that >> should match the called url, some variables that should be extracted from >> that and some default-variables. It's quite hard to explain in the short >> term, but take a look at their documentation: >> http://symfony.com/doc/current/book/routing.html >> >> I'd like you to create a small workflow what your framework is doing in >> which order. Your framework to me looks like this image: >> http://imageshack.us/f/52/mvcoriginal.png/ But I'd rethink if this >> structure would give you more flexibility: >> http://betterexplained.com/wp-content/uploads/rails/mvc-rails.png >> >> I hope you got some input here you can work with. I'd like to hear your >> feedback. >> >> Bye >> Simon >> >> >> 2012/2/12 Elbert F <i...@elbertf.com> >> >>> I'm looking for constructive feedback on Swiftlet, a tiny MVC framework >>> that leverages the OO capabilities of PHP 5.3. It's intentionally >>> featureless and should familiar to those experienced with MVC. Any >>> comments >>> on architecture, code and documentation quality are very welcome. >>> >>> Source code and documentation: http://swiftlet.org >>> >> >> >