I don't know if it has any value, but here's my 2 cents:

People here expect tricky questions. Of course "to be tricky" is subjective and 
is based on your knowledge level. When posting, please try to write every bit 
of effort you had so far trying to solve your problem.

Besides that, please, don't feel sad or ignored or whatsoever if the answers 
you've got wasn't satisfactory or doesn't came at all. As Matijn said, this 
list isn't meant to be a "hand holding" professional support and it may happen 
that the ones with the knowledge simply doesn't got the time to help.

Remember that any answer is given with nothing in return, so, read carefully 
and follow the wise advices provided by the ones that learned the hard way and 
are here today "softening" the path for the newcomers. 

Everything should be interpreted as directions and hints, and not as yells or 
other bad things, doesn't matter how bad the words appear to be.

Good luck in your path.

-----Mensagem original-----
De: Jim Giner [mailto:jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com] 
Enviada em: terça-feira, 9 de outubro de 2012 17:07
Para: php-general@lists.php.net
Assunto: Re: [PHP] Re: limiting

On 10/9/2012 3:46 PM, Matijn Woudt wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David McGlone <da...@dmcentral.net> wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 09, 2012 12:18:06 PM Jim Giner wrote:
>>> Sorry to be so blunt.
>> It's fine I kinda figured I'd be either ignored, or yelled at when I 
>> asked and I now know that I need to be a professional to ask 
>> questions here so there went my confidence.
>>   --
>> David M.
> David,
> You really don't need to be a professional here to ask questions, but 
> you can imagine that we're not going to write code for you. Some 
> people expect professional support here (like they paid for it), and 
> that's clearly not the case. We are all volunteers with our (limited) 
> spare time. Therefore, you're expected to figure out most things out 
> yourself (reading PHP manual, google, etc), and only ask here if you 
> really can't figure things out. Then you can post what you have tried, 
> and what you think it should do. For example your previous post, you 
> could have just looked up what the 'echo' and 'return' statements do 
> in the PHP manual, and they are probably explained pretty OK in those 
> books you own too. You probably could have answered the questions you 
> posted here yourself, after reading PHP manual carefully.
> - Matijn
Matijn - well said.

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