On 10/9/2012 4:54 PM, Samuel Lopes Grigolato wrote:
I don't know if it has any value, but here's my 2 cents:

People here expect tricky questions. Of course "to be tricky" is subjective and 
is based on your knowledge level. When posting, please try to write every bit of effort 
you had so far trying to solve your problem.

Besides that, please, don't feel sad or ignored or whatsoever if the answers you've got 
wasn't satisfactory or doesn't came at all. As Matijn said, this list isn't meant to be a 
"hand holding" professional support and it may happen that the ones with the 
knowledge simply doesn't got the time to help.

Remember that any answer is given with nothing in return, so, read carefully and follow 
the wise advices provided by the ones that learned the hard way and are here today 
"softening" the path for the newcomers.

Everything should be interpreted as directions and hints, and not as yells or 
other bad things, doesn't matter how bad the words appear to be.

Good luck in your path.

-----Mensagem original-----
De: Jim Giner [mailto:jim.gi...@albanyhandball.com]
Enviada em: terça-feira, 9 de outubro de 2012 17:07
Para: php-general@lists.php.net
Assunto: Re: [PHP] Re: limiting

On 10/9/2012 3:46 PM, Matijn Woudt wrote:
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David McGlone <da...@dmcentral.net> wrote:
On Tuesday, October 09, 2012 12:18:06 PM Jim Giner wrote:

Sorry to be so blunt.

It's fine I kinda figured I'd be either ignored, or yelled at when I
asked and I now know that I need to be a professional to ask
questions here so there went my confidence.

David M.


You really don't need to be a professional here to ask questions, but
you can imagine that we're not going to write code for you. Some
people expect professional support here (like they paid for it), and
that's clearly not the case. We are all volunteers with our (limited)
spare time. Therefore, you're expected to figure out most things out
yourself (reading PHP manual, google, etc), and only ask here if you
really can't figure things out. Then you can post what you have tried,
and what you think it should do. For example your previous post, you
could have just looked up what the 'echo' and 'return' statements do
in the PHP manual, and they are probably explained pretty OK in those
books you own too. You probably could have answered the questions you
posted here yourself, after reading PHP manual carefully.

- Matijn

Matijn - well said.

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And your 2 cents are very well spent too!

Not all questions need to be tricky. Sometimes a new user just hasn't got something quite right and doesn't see it. Ask away in that case and the simple error will be pointed out. There are always roadblocks in the development of a project as well as the development of a programmer.

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