The way I designed the script was so that each time they want to save
changes to their htaccess file through the script they have to enter their
password.  So I never have to actually save the password anywhere in the
script.

On Fri, 3 May 2002, Mike Eheler wrote:

> The problem is not in them being able to overwrite the .htaccess *and* 
> getting your FTP password.. those are the cons for both solutions we 
> have presented, respectfully.
> 
> Right now the ideal solution seems to be this:
> 
> save new .htaccess to a temp file
> save new .htpasswd to a temp file
> use PHP's FTP routines to connect to the FTP server with your 
> username/password
> delete existing .htaccess
> delete existing .htpasswd
> upload new .htaccess
> upload new .htpasswd
> close connection
> 
> The biggest problem with this is that you have your FTP password in 
> plain text in the script that performs this. If anyone for any reason is 
> able to take advantage of some kind of exploit that allows them to view 
> the source of that file, you're toast. They get ahold of your FTP 
> password and have free reign on your website.
> 
> I'm open to suggestions.
> 
> serj wrote:
> > Being that the files are owned by their respective users, I would imagine 
> > that would make it pretty difficult for the .htaccess file to be
> > overwritten, if someone found a way to overwrite the file couldn't that 
> > person overwrite any file owned by the ftp user anyway? also I don't see  
> > how someone being able to overwrite the .htaccess file would allow them to
> > grab the ftp password, especially if this is all transmitted over ssl.  I
> > apologize, I'm not trying to start a flame war that I'm sure I'll
> > lose.  But, I am working on a script that does exactly this and if I'm
> > doing it wrong perhaps I should begin recoding it.
> > 
> > josh 
> > 
> > On Fri, 3 May 2002, Mike Eheler wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>If someone can overwrite your .htaccess there's a chance they can also 
> >>view files through the same exploit (possibly). They could then get your 
> >>FTP login info, and do a lot more damage than just removing password 
> >>access to an area.
> >>
> >>Mike
> >>
> >>Serj wrote:
> >>
> >>>Im not exactly sure why that is worse, could you elaborate a little?
> >>>Josh
> >>>
> >>>On Fri, 3 May 2002, Miguel Cruz wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thus leaving the FTP account's password in view of the httpd, which is 
> >>>>even worse...
> >>>>
> >>>>miguel
> >>>>
> >>>>On Fri, 3 May 2002, serj wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>You could use fopen() to connect to the file via ftp therefore keeping
> >>>>>the .htaccess file owned by the user for increased security. 
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Josh Boughner
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On Fri, 3 May 2002, Mike Eheler wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>It's possible, but is it really recommended? Wouldn't the 
> >>>>>>.htaccess/.htpasswd file have to be owned by the apache user, which 
> >>>>>>might leave it open to being overwritten by any kind of a 
> >>>>>>weak/exploitable script?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Mike
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Josh & Valerie McCormack wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>I've used the script phtaccess, which I think used the mentioned class. 
> >>>>>>>Super easy to use.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Josh
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>On Wed, 1 May 2002, Kelly Meeks wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>Is is possible to use php to admin a password file used by a 
> >>>>>>>>>>.htaccess file?
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   You should check the File_Passwd class from PEAR.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>   http://chora.php.net/cvs.php/php4/pear/File
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>-- 
> >>>>>>>>Mika Tuupola http://www.appelsiini.net/~tuupola/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
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