On 7 Oct 2014 10:45, "Lorna Mitchell" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Quite a list of feature requests there!  Let me recap:
>
>  - joind.in has data that could be re-used on php.net, and we'd be really
pleased to allow/enable this.
>  - it will be possible to differentiate between a meetup and a
conference, this feature is already planned.

Has somebody started it ? If not I will do it

>  - there won't be any "php.net" specific form input items but using a
custom tag would be totally fine by us.

How do you suggest custom tags make their way there.

>  - all our event submissions are verified by a human.  They verify what
is relevant for joind.in.  I can't guess what another site's requirements
are.
>

I did not know this. This makes our jobs MUCH easier :) great news

> It looks to me like what Paul has is pretty much what is needed, we'll
work on making the tags much more used/visible and as I say, if you let me
know which custom tag you want to use then we'll work on getting the event
hosts to use it.
>
> Regards
>
> Lorna
>
>
> On 7 October 2014 09:34, Paul Dragoonis <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lorna/Hannes,
>>
>> After reviewing your conversation and the questions asked, I have a few
suggestions that will help alleviate the hurdles we're about to push
through.
>>
>> 1) We need to differentiate between confs and meetups by having:
>>    a) A new form field with 2 radio options to choose from "User Group
Meetup" or "Conference"
>>    b) To return this new field in the API responses
>>    c) An API parameter to filter results by i.e: "?event_type=conference"
>>
>> 2) For events appearing on php.net by:
>>    a) Taking the user to the Edit Event after they create their event.
>>    b) Putting a question on the Edit Event form which is: "Would you
like your conference to appear on php.net?" which would appear if(they have
a 'php' tag OR the title of their event has 'php' in it). By choosing yes
they will get a tag named "phpdotnet" which I can filter by.
>>
>> OPTIONAL VERIFICATION OF EVENTS:
>>    d) When the user chooses a "phpdotnet' tag an email will be sent to
joindin admins to prompt them to "approve" this phpdotnet request and only
verified events will come back from the API.
>>
>>
>> I believe by implementing the 2 above proposed enhancements to joind.in
that we'll have a solid way to get only events that have been verified to
make their way to php.net.
>>
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 9:05 AM, Lorna Mitchell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The tags aren't verified, I'm not sure how we would do that.  Totally
happy to pick a custom tag for events that should be on php.net, just let
me know what the tag is and I'll make sure we're making that clear on our
end.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Lorna
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6 October 2014 22:40, Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are tags confirmed or somehow verified?
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering if it would be better for us to request organizers to
>>>> tag their events as "phpnetable" to filter through things we aren't
>>>> looking to display, but that only works if these are somehow verified.
>>>>
>>>> The only alternative I can think of then is to filter by php &
>>>> conference (which hopefully should now include meetups then).
>>>>
>>>> -Hannes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:35 PM, Lorna Mitchell <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>> > Hannes
>>>> >
>>>> > We don't currently have a way to distinguish a meetup from a
conference but
>>>> > it's on our roadmap.  The CfP collection is actively maintained.
You can
>>>> > get CfP open and close dates for all events, but they only appear in
that
>>>> > feed while their CfP is open.
>>>> >
>>>> > We did not add a specific "add this to php.net" because I suspect
that will
>>>> > attract the spammers.  I fully expect to spend the next 18 months of
my life
>>>> > suggesting to event admins that they correctly tag their events -
we're also
>>>> > working on better user documentation and support for this process,
starting
>>>> > with making the tags part of the initial event submission.
Currently the
>>>> > tags are not very widely used but I expect that to change as a
result of the
>>>> > features that are newly live or open as pull requests.  To some
extent I
>>>> > think we need to see how this plays out.
>>>> >
>>>> > Hope that answers your questions.
>>>> >
>>>> > Lorna
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 6 October 2014 22:21, Hannes Magnusson <[email protected]
>
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> We need a way to distinguish a meetup from a conference, is that
>>>> >> possible? (we only want to list the conferences)
>>>> >> Is the cfp label actively maintained? Can we get cfp closing dates
for
>>>> >> each one, or will the label be removed from it?
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Also, was the "specially crafted link for php.net" that
"automatically
>>>> >> adds phpnet label to the submission" implemented?
>>>> >> "For event submissions I would propose to have a 'crafted' link on
the
>>>> >> php.net website that directly links to the event submission page of
>>>> >> joind.in. [....] Events submitted from the php.net domain will
>>>> >> automatically have a tag 'php' or 'php.net'; "
>>>> >> I think that would be pretty nice and avoids weird spammy events on
>>>> >> our page... If it is not, then I'll guess we'll just have to wait
and
>>>> >> see how it plays out :)
>>>> >>
>>>> >> -Hannes
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 2:02 PM, Lorna Mitchell <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>> >> > Hannes
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > We're helping already, but I thought Paul pretty much answered
your
>>>> >> > questions and has this covered.  To recap:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >  - we don't distinguish between conferences and meetups (yet)
>>>> >> >  - there's a separate feed of events with an open CfP
>>>> >> >  - we'll try hard to add in anything that would make things
easier on
>>>> >> > your
>>>> >> > side
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I didn't understand the nl2br() comment but feel free to explain
it to
>>>> >> > me
>>>> >> > again if I need to!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > What else do you need from me?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Lorna
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On 6 October 2014 21:55, Hannes Magnusson <
[email protected]>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I don't know the api nor what exactly it offers.. Beth, Mike or
Lorna
>>>> >> >> (all have offered to help in the past) probably know it very well
>>>> >> >> though :)
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> See also: http://php.markmail.org/thread/in5rb7etxiijo3hp
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Paul Dragoonis <
[email protected]>
>>>> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> > Hi Hannes,
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > I have an updated version of the /conferences/index.php and
>>>> >> >> > JoindInParser
>>>> >> >> > class, beyond what I threw together the night of the
hackathon, I
>>>> >> >> > will
>>>> >> >> > submit this soon.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > The screenshot is pulling in all events with the 'php' tag. It
>>>> >> >> > happens
>>>> >> >> > to be
>>>> >> >> > a meetup, the joindin API doesn't actually differentiate
between
>>>> >> >> > Meetups
>>>> >> >> > and
>>>> >> >> > Conferences. If the API doesn't do something they will be more
than
>>>> >> >> > happy to
>>>> >> >> > accommodate us.
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Which specific part would you have expected to see a nl2br() in
>>>> >> >> > place?
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > As for CFP's there's a flag here that basically filters events
where
>>>> >> >> > their
>>>> >> >> > CFP is open, and sorting it by start_date ASC.
>>>> >> >> > http://api.joind.in/v2.1/events?filter=cfp
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > Many thanks,
>>>> >> >> > Paul
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> > On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 6:28 PM, Hannes Magnusson
>>>> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> The screenshot contains a meetup, not a conference?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> Anyway we can be more selective here?
>>>> >> >> >> It also seems to be missing nl2br() ?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> How are open CFPs handled? Can we get a list of the currently
open
>>>> >> >> >> ones and print in a banner style at the top?
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> -Hannes
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >>
>>>> >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 11:51 PM, Paul Dragoonis
>>>> >> >> >> <[email protected]>
>>>> >> >> >> wrote:
>>>> >> >> >> > Hi Team,
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Sorry about lack of patches last time.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > master.git patch
>>>> >> >> >> > The first patch includes the parser which:
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > * asks joindin API for 50 of the latest upcoming PHP
conferences.
>>>> >> >> >> > * parses the JSON API response.
>>>> >> >> >> > * uses OpenStreetMaps to convert lat/longs to City/Country
>>>> >> >> >> > * puts it back into JSON and dumps it to disk for the
mirrors to
>>>> >> >> >> > process.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Clean and simple.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > phpweb patch
>>>> >> >> >> > The second path includes:
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > * an example .json file dump of the conferences which
pretends
>>>> >> >> >> > that
>>>> >> >> >> > master.git repo put there by rsync which happens in the live
>>>> >> >> >> > environment
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > * the /conferences/ index page, iterating the JSON results.
>>>> >> >> >> > * handling the optional inclusion for successful
city/country from
>>>> >> >> >> > OSM.
>>>> >> >> >> > * handling default images if there are none supplied by
joindin.
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Example screenshot is here showing conferences title, date,
>>>> >> >> >> > description,
>>>> >> >> >> > logo, city, country: http://puu.sh/bYyNT/9172394ce7.png
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> > Many thanks,
>>>> >> >> >> > Paul
>>>> >> >> >> >
>>>> >> >> >> >
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>>>> >> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > --
>>>> >> > Lorna Mitchell
>>>> >> > http://lornajane.net
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Lorna Mitchell
>>>> > http://lornajane.net
>>>> >
>>>> >
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