On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:59:32AM +0200, Derick Rethans wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Joe Orton wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2003 at 11:35:29AM +0200, Gabor Hojtsy wrote:
> > > >Hi folks - I noticed that the new PHP documentation licence elects to
> > > >use this option of the OPL:
> > > >
> > > >    Distribution of substantively modified versions of this document
> > > >    is prohibited without the explicit permission of the copyright
> > > >    holder.
> > > >
> > > >This is a significant restriction over the previous licence, and is not
> > > >in the spirit (if not the letter) of the Open Source Definition/Debian
> > > >Free Software Guidelines: that modification is unrestricted is an
> > > >important part of free software.
> > > >
> > > >Would you consider removing this option?
> > > 
> > > Is the documentation software?
> > 
> > Obviously not, though I find it hard to convince myself that the
> > principles of free software should not also apply to free
> > documentation--hence the question.
> 
> The idea why this is in is that we don't want other people making money 
> of our work, without having to contribute their updates/changes back to 
> the project. I don't see anything wrong with this statement.

That's great, but the licence option goes so much further than that - it
restricts modifications to those which are approved by the copyright
holders, or may be defined as "not substantive", whatever that means.  
There is no "freedom to fork" any more - that's the central issue here.

It's a similar issue with the GNU FDL when an "Invariant" section is
used.  My understanding is that Debian also consider such a licence
restriction unacceptable (for the main distribution).

>  Also, the 
> documentation was former under GPL which was and is a totally WRONG 
> licence for documentation.

No arguments there! :)

Regards,

joe

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