ID: 27438
User updated by: php_bug_27438 at garykeith dot com
Reported By: php_bug_27438 at garykeith dot com
Status: Assigned
Bug Type: Documentation problem
Operating System: All
PHP Version: Irrelevant
Assigned To: kennyt
New Comment:
There are more problems than just replacing an exclamation point.
There's also the issue of ampersands and pound signs in browser names
and pound signs in version numbers. These will all cause get_browser()
to return bogus information and yet according to the MS spec for
browscap.ini these are all valid characters.
How do you expect to get any cooperation from me when you end your
message with "happy flaming!"?
This nlopess character barges in on my attempt to get a link removed
and essentially, once again, tries to blame the whole situation on me.
Then Derick comes along and calls me an ass. My attempts to post a note
in the documentation section urging your users not to use my file keep
getting deleted. These are small examples of what I've gotten in
exchange with my cooperation with PHP. And now I'm the flamer?
We all have our breaking point. I've reached mine.
I will continue to redirect that link back to your own website. Be glad
I am ethical enough not to redirect your users to some gross adult
website.
Make sure you note the new restrictions in my Terms of Service.
Please govern yourselves accordingly.
Previous Comments:
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[2004-02-29 21:29:00] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Uh, that is, of course, if you're willing to let us link with this
added information.
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[2004-02-29 21:21:14] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We could create a new manual page detailing the process of stripping
characters PHP can't handle ('!'). Replace the (2?) links to the site
with links to that page, which would contain the site's URL beneath a
warning. Since that Yahoo! entry is the only bug-provoking one, even
users would find it easy to clean up the file.
Happy flaming!
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[2004-02-29 20:36:17] php_bug_27438 at garykeith dot com
I sent you an e-mail. As with every other PHP team member I've tried to
contact I've had no reply as yet.
You need not worry about the link I asked be removed.
If I detect an HTTP_REFERER from php.net I simply redirect the user
agent back from whence it came.
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[2004-02-29 15:23:46] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's a known fact that users are impolite, we have lots of experience
with that and it's not something neither you or we can "fix". But it is
possible to just ignore them, and that's simply what we do.
Now, as your file does not crash the system (it just gives a warning
when starting the webserver) we will get more bugreports about it,
which is a *good* thing for us as it might pressure fixes in our way of
handling the browscap.ini file. We can not remove the link to your
site, unless there is an alternative browscap.ini file as we don't want
to stop the get_browser() function from being implemented in PHP. So I
want to suggest that you remove the wrong information on your site (ie,
it does not crash, and *we* were not impolite to you and just tried to
find a solution) and I'm sure that our fixes for handling the
browscap.ini file are being implemented shortly (as there is already a
patch).
(And please don't reopen this bug report, as we will just bogus it
again)
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[2004-02-29 15:07:42] php_bug_27438 at garykeith dot com
I have always asked people who report PHP bugs to file a bug report
with PHP. I cannot make them do so. But the simple fact is I've had to
make constant adjustments to my browscap.ini file to accommodate PHP
over the years and PHP users especially have not been very polite about
it. I am a very patient person and it took me this long to finally
loose my patience. I attempted to contact the person who first
contacted me asking permission to use my file and got no reply. If I
couldn't get any reply privately then I had no choice but to go public
where the situation could not be avoided.
What I'm asking is not unreasonable. All I want is to have the link
removed from your documentation page otherwise PHP users are going to
download a file that as of today in 4.3.x is guaranteed to crash your
server. That does neither one of us any good. So just remove the link
and you'll never hear from me again. I promise.
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