ID:               27438
 Comment by:       davidu at everydns dot net
 Reported By:      php_bug_27438 at garykeith dot com
 Status:           Assigned
 Bug Type:         Documentation problem
 Operating System: All
 PHP Version:      Irrelevant
 Assigned To:      kennyt
 New Comment:

Gary,



Is there a way that someone could help you maintain a PHP compatible
version of browscap.ini?



Clearly your site is the "goto" place for browscaps and I think it
would only hurt PHP users to try to maintain it separately.  (I don't
know how you stay on top of all the changes as it is...great work!)



That said, we at everydns would be happy to take care of maintaining a
PHP version of the browscap if you let us know whenever it's updated
but I think your site is still the best place for it to be -- google
and php users already know about it. :)



Ultimately I think the solution is to just fix the php functions to
follow the spec but in the meantime, maybe there's a way I (we) can
help...



-davidu


Previous Comments:
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[2004-03-09 09:05:14] hps at intermeta dot de

wget -q -O -  http://www.garykeith.com/data/browscap.ini | perl -ne
'(/^\s*[\;\#\[]/ || /^\s*$/) && do { print ; next; }; y/\!\(\)//d;
print;' > browscap.ini



fixes this. I'm pretty sure someone will come up with an equivalent php
program. :-)

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[2004-02-29 23:10:30] php_bug_27438 at garykeith dot com

Apology accepted. Thank you. I'm sorry I misunderstood to whom you were
directing that comment.



IMO, the only realistic option to deal with this situation over the
next several years is for me to provide an alternate browscap.ini file
that takes PHP deficiencies into account.



I've been unwilling to do that because of how I've been treated by
everyone at PHP with three exceptions: you, Jay and Ryan.

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[2004-02-29 22:49:47] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wow, I'm sorry. That "Happy flaming!" was directed at derick at
php.net, not you. I guess I assumed you watch php.net bug reports. ;-)
I'd like to cooperate with you, while still helping php.net visitors to
find a browscap.ini file. Again, sorry to be offensive. :)

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[2004-02-29 22:41:45] php_bug_27438 at garykeith dot com

I made a typo:



There's also the issue of ampersands and pound signs in browser names
and pound signs in version numbers.



This should have stated:



There's also the issue of ampersands and parenthesis in browser names
and pound signs in version numbers.

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[2004-02-29 22:39:56] php_bug_27438 at garykeith dot com

There are more problems than just replacing an exclamation point.
There's also the issue of ampersands and pound signs in browser names
and pound signs in version numbers. These will all cause get_browser()
to return bogus information and yet according to the MS spec for
browscap.ini these are all valid characters.



How do you expect to get any cooperation from me when you end your
message with "happy flaming!"?



This nlopess character barges in on my attempt to get a link removed
and essentially, once again, tries to blame the whole situation on me.
Then Derick comes along and calls me an ass. My attempts to post a note
in the documentation section urging your users not to use my file keep
getting deleted. These are small examples of what I've gotten in
exchange with my cooperation with PHP. And now I'm the flamer?



We all have our breaking point. I've reached mine.



I will continue to redirect that link back to your own website. Be glad
I am ethical enough not to redirect your users to some gross adult
website.



Make sure you note the new restrictions in my Terms of Service.



Please govern yourselves accordingly.

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