Hello All,

Please don't misunderstand me, I am *NOT* recording pilCon's at all.  I
strongly believe in the right for privacy and recording anything without
permision is absolutely out of my mind.

I've done one and only one attempt to record a PilCon, and obviously it was
previously asked in this list and everybody replying agreed (sadly it
wasn't a great test because I couldn't attend from the very beginning), I
checked for uploading and finally uploaded to vimeo and again emailed it to
the list ( PilCon 10-04-2010 on Vimeo <https://vimeo.com/536507279#_=_> ).

As far as I remember there's no personal data in the recording unless the
chat window, anyway I will delete it from vimeo if anyone ask for it.

I agree is hard to edit the recording in a useful way because it would be
great to have an index by minute and theme, the recording is simply the
jitsi & ssh screen and voices talking about, no index, no info about issues
beyond the speech.

My conclusion is recording is not that great and it would be better a
planned video lesson, also in current state with screen turning off
frequently it is simply not possible to record anything, at least from my
computer.

On Fri, Sep 24, 2021 at 11:45 AM O.Hamann <o.ham...@gmx.net> wrote:

>
> I'm not so happy with published recordings without asking about it or at
> least announcing it in the certain session.
>

I've asked before recording, obviously.  I never would record anything
without permision.


> Though publishing recordings might help to 'spread the pil21 word'^^ it
> would require much effort in editing and indexing the stream.
>
> It could be sustainable to publish some shorter excurses of some
> PilCons, but I would like to have a talk before,
> as I totally agree with razzy's view, that PilCon 'is also about
> socialization and trust-building'.
>

I'm also totally for trust-building and secure environments. I'd like to
insist I'm not recording anything and not planning to do it.

As discussed days before, I've suggested it would be a good idea to record
the sessions, I asked to record one as a tested, people agreed, so I did
and uploaded to the only place I could and that's all.   I would expect
everybody to check the result and discuss if it is something interesting or
not.

I still think it's interesting to have videos explaining Picolisp, maybe
PilCon or maybe not, maybe it would be better specific lessons about some
issue, similar to Mia's blog but in video.


>
>
> I like the idea to publish the console history.
>

I like it too, but the raw console history wouldn't be very useful because
the most value is the explanations, that is Alex speech ;-)

maybe the console history may be the roots for a blog article or something
like that deeply explaining the issues involved.


>
> Or to use the old 'script' command line tool, which beneroth brought up
> in IRC.
> (of course I have troubles to understand what script does ... a few
> keystrokes produced megabytes of recording file when trying it without
> reading the man page before ...)
>
> In either tool, we could try to type significant comment lines to
> seperate different topics and make them easier to find when browsing
> through.
>
> If someone who could not take part in the PilCon reads afterwards the
> history or script file - could then specifically ask in the mailing
> list, so that he/she won't get lost of any PilCon topics.
>
>
it could be very useful indeed but also would require editing.  Anyway the
presence in media is a good thing, the objective is not to please the
picolispers but to attract new people to picolisp and to attend newbies'
questions. For spreading out picolisp videos are a better tool than text,
IMHO

greets

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