Well, you'll need to speak with my Physiological Psychology teacher of 30 years
ago, as that is what our textbook said.  We do not see things as continuous
streams, but as frames.

Cheers -

george



--- Alan Cangemi <ac-t...@msn.com> wrote:
> George.
> 
> The brain DOES NOT take in light similar to a movie camera's film mechanism.
> It "sees" light as a continuous stream.  It is only through mechanical
> processes that wheels appear to be turning backwards whilst the vehicle is
> moving forward.
> 
> So there!
> 
> sreehC
> 
> Alan
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "George L Smyth" <glsm...@yahoo.com>
> To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Human eye
> 
> 
> > While light does stream in continuously, the brain takes it in similar to
> a
> > movie camera's film.  This is why you may see a bicycle's tires appear to
> move
> > backwards as it goes forwards.
> >
> > Cheers -
> >
> > george
> >
> >
> >
> > --- erick...@hickorytech.net wrote:
> > > Another thing occurs to me. The camera analogy is also limited by the
> fact
> > > that camera shutters open and close, while light streams into the human
> eye
> > > continuously. The operative 'shutter speed" would have to be the
> duration of
> > > exposure to the rod or cone required to trigger nerve conduction. I
> don't
> > > know whether there is a trasmission period followed by a refractory
> period,
> > > which would equate to shutter speed, or not.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <erick...@hickorytech.net>
> > > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 11:30 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Human eye
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here is some information I have. How it applies I'm not sure. The eye
> is
> > > > only the aperture, lens and sensing apparatus. Because the eye is
> attached
> > > > to the brain it would make more sense to use a digital camera as a
> model
> > > > rather than film camera. The mind can read an image and give a
> response in
> > > > as little as 0.04 seconds- a professional pingpong players response
> time,
> > > > for instance. Nerve transmission time mind to brain can be measured by
> > > > measuring cortical evoked potential responses to visual stimuli. I
> might
> > > > have once know the limiting values but I don't recall them. A big name
> in
> > > > research in this area is Meichenbaum, if you want to look it up. As
> for
> > > > aperture, the lens to retina distance is roughly 25 mm. Maximum pupil
> > > size,
> > > > i.e. aperture diameter, is maybe 8 mm in an adult, so the maximum F
> stop
> > > > would be 25/8= 3.1. Minimum aperture would be about 25/2 for
> 'pinpoint"
> > > > pupils, an F stop of 12.5. I think that the eye processes light
> sensation
> > > > somewhat differently at low light levels, so "film speed" would be a
> > > guess.
> > > > Remember too that the eye and brain cannot distinguish as separate
> images
> > > > any sequence more rapid than about 14/second. That is the basis for
> movies
> > > > and television, sequences of still images projected faster than the
> eye
> > > can
> > > > distinguish, thus blending them into apparent continuous motion.
> > > >
> > > > I----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "George L Smyth" <glsm...@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: <pinhole-discussion@p at ???????>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 10:53 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [pinhole-discussion] Human eye
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On 22 Jul 2002, at 11:16, eco...@aol.com wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I know this is not strictly pinhole, but I wondered if
> > > > > > anyone had access to the average human eye values for the
> > > > > > camera variables. ie Respective - film speed, shutter speed,
> > > > > > aperture, focus range, depth of field etc. Thanks
> > > > > >     Ellis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > When I looked into shutter speed many years ago, I came upon the
> > > > conclusion
> > > > > that the eye's shutter speed is approximately 1/100 second.  You can
> > > > verify
> > > > > this by taking successive pictures of a waterfall.  We all know that
> > > > slowing
> > > > > down the shutter speed to a second or more will make for silky
> water,
> > > > which is
> > > > > not what we see.  From there, take pictures with faster and faster
> > > speeds
> > > > > (don't forget to take notes).  When you get the results, compare the
> > > > pictures
> > > > > with what you see and make the decision for yourself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers -
> > > > >
> > > > > george
> > > > >
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