Philip Brown wrote:
> 
> Is there some hidden magic somewhere, that makes this better than just doing 
> the same thing in a postinstall script?
> (other than avoiding the prompting the user for "do you want to run a  
> script?")
> 
> are there hooks in the zone level OS startup that take advantage of this, 
> perhaps?

oops... re-read Stephen's earlier message, where he said basically, "no, 
[i.manifest] isnt particularly very useful"



> Otherwise... using the sun provided i.manifest, wouldnt seem to solve any of 
> the really "big" zone related problems to do with startup and SMF...., so 
> I'm wondering how IPS is going to solve them.

Still like to hear more on how IPS is going to "solve" this problem.



Disclaimer: I don't read *every* email on this list: i try to just read 
stuff based on whether the subject line looks interesting/relevant to me.

That being said, it seems like I've found a semi-answer to my questions 
about, [how are actions going to solve all the 'script' problems, yet still 
give a full set of capabilities to packagers?]
And why there isnt any documentation on it. in the subject thread of,
"Can IPS support preinstall script?"


Bart writes,
"Quite honestly, we're still working on figuring this out."

    ---------------------------

This is what, quite frankly, disturbs me, and why I am reacting as strongly 
as I am, in multiple areas:

Because it seems like you folks DONT have everything fully planned out and 
designed... yet are acting like you do.
You are adamant about "custom scripts WILL go away", and various other 
things. That the current plans are "The One True Way", and everyone will be 
forced into using them... when they havent even been fully proven to cover 
all needs.

If all this stuff was presented more along the lines of,
"we THINK we have a better solution... here's what it currently looks 
like... still work in progress... IF it works out, we'll be able to have a 
win-win by doing away with the old stuff"...
Then it wouldnt be as big of a deal.

Instead, though, it seems like there is more of an attitude of, "We know 
what's best for you [even though we dont have a completed design, and dont 
even know that our design will work 100%].
This is what WE want to work on, so blow everything else.
[Resistance is futile, you will be IPS'd]".


As a customer, being faced with that, is both frustrating, and insulting.

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