Dave Miner wrote:
Shawn Walker wrote:
With that said, I have to wonder why Ubuntu and similar OS distributions that have a similar that don't offer the installation of additional software during install don't have this issue?


For one, Ubuntu's the current standard; we aren't. Sometimes you have to try a little harder when you're the scrappy underdog.

You're correct that the live CD's typically don't, because they all install the same way we currently do. Fedora, however, offers the install DVD that allows customization up front, or later. Ubuntu's server install writes the base system, then lets you customize it, but still in the guided flow. Haven't looked at any others lately, though SuSE was similar to Fedora last time I looked.

Right, but as you said, it's an install DVD, not a Live one, which makes a huge difference.

As someone else mentioned, there's no reason you couldn't just have the
packagemanager run (packagemanager -R /mountpoint) at the end of the
install process. That would avoid the two-step part you're talking about. Plus, as I already mentioned, I wonder why this isn't such a big issue for other distributions.


I think it's an interesting additional option. There are other use cases that it doesn't address, such as being able to hand out even out-of-date media and have the user directly install the latest stuff rather than install then update.

When you start mixing a Live environment that is cpio'd to disk along with network-based install where we don't know what the numbers are ahead of time, things start to unravel. If everything is on the media in package form, then you can definitely have various sizes and other information very quickly.

Cheers,
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Shawn Walker
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