On 08/14/2013 09:40 AM, Ken Dreyer wrote:
Hi all,
Fedora packager here (don't shoot! :)
Hi, I'm also from Fedora and leading the charge for our new JS/Web
Assets guidelines (in addition to maintaining nodejs).
Fedora is currently planning some Javascript guidelines[0], and the
subject of Debian compatibility came up during the discussion.
Specifically, we're trying to decide how best to serve the Javascript
libraries out to the web.
I saw that the Debian "javascripts-common" package contains an Apache
alias for "/javascript". How has this been working for you? In light
of [2], will this URL scheme be changing sometime soon? If so, what is
the future URL going to be?
>
We were thinking of implementing something like
"_sysassets/javascript", and I thought it might be nice to check with
you guys to see what the future holds for Debian in this area.
So first I think I should explain what the deal is with the "assets"
thing. As part of the new guidelines, we really want to take into
account shared non-JS stuff like CSS frameworks, icon libraries, web
fonts, whathaveyou.
So the idea is to have one all-encompassing "web assets" directory, with
various subdirectories for different kinds of stuff. We intend to
symlink /usr/share/fonts into this directory so web developers have a
huge collection of free fonts available immediately at their fingertips,
and so we don't have to repackage anything to make them available on the
web.
The httpd-exported directory kind of got kicked around and ended up
being /_sysassets in the current incarnation of the proposal, but I'm
not very happy with it. I like how the "sys" prefix sets the directory
apart enough so that it's not going to conflict with directories already
being used on web servers out in the wild, but without adding a whole
lot of extra length and reinforcing that the contents are provided by us
awesome distro packagers. The underscore doesn't really make much of a
difference IMHO.
I also think JS is important enough for it's own directory on top of the
assets directory, and this would allow us to collaborate with you even
if you're not interested in the rest of our assets approach.
So, what I'd really like to do is:
/sysjs -> system-provided shared JavaScript libraries
-> /usr/share/javascript on the filesystem
-> same HTTPd and filesystem-side on both Debian and Fedora
/sysassets -> system-provided shared static assets
-> /usr/share/web-assets on the filesystem
-> up to you whether you want to implement
This is highly unlikely to conflict with anything that's going on in the
real world. Not to mention that "/sysjs" is half the length of
"/javascript". (Who wants to type a bunch of crap into their <script>
tags? ;-)
I really think Debian and Fedora both would benefit from some synergy
here. If we diverge too much any chance of upstream support here is
completely lost. :-(
/me is really looking forward to nuking the nine million copies of
jQuery we have floating around the distribution. ;-)
Thanks!
-T.C.
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