Hi all I would like to add my opinion to that question. I am an happy Debian powerpc port user for 3 years and half. I have an old iBook G4. I am not able to test kde4.1 beta 1 in Debian without building myself the debian packages or from kde svn. I do not want to build it on my old iBook, so what ? If debian devs whant users to test, please help users get the packages built on their arch. I am saying that because I believe that kde4 will not be ready for Debian unless it is tested. And I cannot test it because I have only obsolete packages or they are not installable because others have been updated. I am sure that it is not only a problem of experimental powerpc buildd. There is not really an easy way for some people willing to test to just do it.
I have a more general question. How the other distribution are managing their unstable version ? Is it not possible to work on kde4 in debian without relying on experimental ? Is kde4.1 really something experimental ? I thought kde4.0 was experimental and kde4.1 something working (I do not mean complete, but does it crash ?). How debian managed to include gnome 2 ? Did you wait for one year and half before shipping it ? I do not want to troll or sound harsh, but I am really convinced of the problem of the chicken and egg. I also want to say thanks for your work and I am sorry if my mail is the cause of hurt or pain, this is not my goal. -- GALLIEN Matthieu -- http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-kde-talk