Hello,

On sekmadienis 28 Vasaris 2010 13:46:53 George Kiagiadakis wrote:
> <dpala...@uninorte.edu.co> wrote:
> > On Jueves 25 Febrero 2010 16:42:20 Modestas Vainius escribió:
> >> Hello,
> >> 
> >> since there is no Debian stable with KDE 4 yet and having in mind the
> >> recent KDE rebranding [1], I think there will never be a better time to
> >> change names of the meta-kde metapackages to match the new branding and
> >> give our metapackages somewhat official names for the first time in the
> >> KDE history.
> >> 
> >> My proposal:
> >> 
> >> kde-minimal becomes:
> >> --------------------
> >> 
> >> Package: kde-plasma-desktop
> >> Provides: kde-minimal
> >> 
> >> Package: kde-plasma-netbook
> >> Provides: kde-minimal
> >> 
> >> kde-standard mostly remains as it is except:
> >> -------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> Package: kde-standard
> >> Depends: kde-plasma-desktop | kde-plasma-netbook, $standard_apps
> > 
> > +=1
> 
> I think that's a good idea.
> 
> >> kde-full becomes (already done in svn):
> >> ---------------------------------------
> >> 
> >> Package: kde-sc
> >> Provides: kde-full
> > 
> > "sc" alone means nothing. It should be "kde-software-compilation". But as
> > Debian already implies software, it could be shortened to
> > "kde-compilation".
> 
> I also don't like "kde-sc" much. I don't think we should drop "full",
> otherwise we will get the same effect that the "kde" metapackage had.

That's a valid point.

So lets keep both kde-full and kde-standard (so neither will look odd) and 
simply make kde-full provide kde-software-compilation (hence the latter name 
will be more hidden).


So final proposal:
------------------
Package: kde-plasma-desktop
Provides: kde-minimal
Depends: kdebase-runtime, plasma-desktop, kdebase-workspace, kdebase-apps

Package: kde-plasma-netbook
Provides: kde-minimal
Depends: kdebase-runtime, plasma-netbook, kdebase-workspace, kdebase-apps

Package: kde-standard
Depends: kde-plasma-desktop | kde-minimal, $standard_apps
Suggests: kde-plasma-desktop, kde-plasma-netbook

Package: kde-full
Provides: kde-software-compilation
Depends: kde-plasma-desktop, kde-plasma-netbook, $the_rest_of_kdesc

NOTE: for this to work, kdebase-workspace metapackage should have plasma-
desktop | plasma-netbook in Depends.
-----------------

I have also introduced kde-sc-dev-latest (odd name, open for suggestions) 
which is about keeping KDE Development platform build depends up-to-date (via 
breaks) without bumping various build depends for each individual KDE SC 
package every point release. Build depends bumping is wrong for two reasons:

1) e.g. kdenetwork 4.4.5 will probably build fine against kdelibs 4.4.[01234] 
just fine.
2) build depends bump would unnecessarily tighten Depends and complicate KDE 
migration to testing which symbol files were supposed to ease.

kde-sc-dev-latest does have one side effect though as it might complicate KDE 
building outside chroot (e.g. it will prevent building of kdepimlibs 4.4.2 
while kdebase-workspace-dev 4.4.1 is installed even if kdepimlibs does not 
really need anything from workspace). In order to solve this, I will probably 
add a custom command to pkg-kde-tools which would override distro kde-sc-dev-
latest with the version without Breaks and install it on the user system.

-- 
Modestas Vainius <modes...@vainius.eu>

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