On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:31 AM, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:

On 11-04-26 at 11:12am, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:
On 2011-04-25 23:10, IOhannes m zmölnig wrote:

go ahead. But you also changed other things as well.

apart from the ominous change from "Depend" to "Suggest", the other
other changes were fixes for lintian warnings and adding Vcs-stanzas
to debian/control

anyhow, nobody uploaded the packages yet and all changes are
documented in git.
if you indeed insist in "Depend"ing on pd-libdir, reverting this
specific change should be trivial.

Yes, this is a team, but...

It seems to me that it is not our policy (or social style - we need not have policies about everything IMO) that anyone works on anything here -
without prior coordination.

It is always nice to ask _before_ messing with packages you are not
directly involved in. Not sure if that was the case here, but from the
reaction it seems so.

In the Perl team we us the Uploaders field as a hint about who in the
team is directly involved with maintaining it. We might do the same (if
not policy here already?).

I see teamwork not as all of us eating directly from the same big plate,
but sitting in the same room eating together - being more directly
inspired by work of each other than in big Debian, and some of us
sharing some plates - but asking nicely before tasting treats from the
plates of each other.

So, instead of saying that "it is easy to roll back" I suggest that you
roll it back yourself, IOhannes, since you did the change that is
clearly disliked - technically correct or not.

Afterwards, when not distracted by a social issue, it is easier discuss
the technical issue of what package relation makes best sense for that
particular package.

I think you said it very well, Jonas. Since I started this thread, I feel I should also respond, but not to beat a dead horse. I'd sum it up in short American style as "communication is essential to teamwork". ;)

All of the changes might have been perfectly good, my problem is that I didn't hear anything of any of it until the upload request. I think its always best to ask before touching a repo that I have not touched before. I'm fine with direct commits, since reverting is easy, as long as I get a chance to review the commits before it gets uploaded.



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