Hello! On Saturday 13 June 2020 17:36:14 Felipe Sateler wrote: > Hello Pali, > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 3:17 PM Pali Rohár <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hello! > > > > For two years I have been playing with Bluetooth audio support. I > > prepared patches for pulseaudio which radically improve bluetooth A2DP > > situation on Linux, but now after two years I see that pulseaudio > > maintainers are in interested in them and they are fine with current > > bluetooth audio state on Linux. > > > > For last two months lot of users are asking me when my patches would be > > merged into pulseaudio and when bluetooth audio situation on Linux would > > be better. > > > > To all users now I'm writing reply, that they should forgot about Linux > > support as maintainers are not interested in it and users should use e.g. > > Apple systems where everything bluetooth audio related is working out of > > the box. It is just wasting time for non-power users on Linux to try to > > do anything if there are already Apple and Windows systems where it is > > working. > > > > So, I would like to ask you, Debian maintainers, are you interested in > > Bluetooth A2DP patches for pulseaudio in which pulseaudio maintainers > > are not interested? I have working support for aptX, aptX-HD, SBC-XQ > > and FastStream codecs in A2DP profile. FastStream is also with > > microphone support. > > > > I don't want to maintain a fork of pulseaudio. So including patches that > upstream *actively* doesn't want is a hard sell.
I understand your points. If you are asking how to sell it, is not poor audio support on Linux good argument compared to Windows and Apple support? Because as I wrote, really it is better to not use Linux/Debian for bluetooth audio and rather switch to Windows or Apple system. > However, I don't actually see that upstream is actively opposed. I even see > some activity happening right now which is awesome! No, upstream is really not interested in it. I thought that something is happening but I was wrong. I'm stopping communication with upstream. It is just takes time and has no result. After 2 years basically nothing happened. Seems they do not want to touch anything bluetooth related and they like current state. Looks like that they also lost other developers as I do not see any activity on bluetooth part. > I would very much consider including patches that are on track to being > upstreamed, provided you are willing to help with rebasing patches on new > upstream versions. To be completely honest, my debian time is fairly > limited, so I'm not committing to more work now. > > I would also be willing to consider following a patched-pulseaudio > upstream, especially of other distros are including the same patches. But > the important thing is that I am not an active pulseaudio developer, and > thus I don't want to maintain patches. I want to follow some upstream, not > be one. So, what about contacting other Linux distributions and maintaining patches collectively? I'm sure that users of other Linux distributions are interested in improved bluetooth audio support based on feedbacks which I got in private emails. Let me know what do you think. -- Pali Rohár [email protected] _______________________________________________ pkg-pulseaudio-devel mailing list [email protected] https://alioth-lists.debian.net/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pkg-pulseaudio-devel
