On Wed, Dec 14, 2005 at 16:53:13 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > that, because it doesn't work yet and that's why the whole idea is wrong
No, I'm not saying. I'm STILL asking some 'HOW' questions and don't get answers. > to start with". There are possibilites which we could utilize and give me > a good reason, good retorical reason, why shouldn't we use that. So - what I'll repeat one more time, slowly: b e c a u s e n o o n e c a n t e l l m e H O W t o s t a r t n e t w o r k s e r v i c e s . > wan't work when we're done scripting, what is impossible because of the > nature/architecture of initng and so on. So far You've just claimed the How do you want to script, when you don't know WHAT is to be written? > obvoius - it isn't ready and productional yet, but the question is, should It's not even ready for testing, because apparently there's no fundamentals (or any person here who knows something more than 'parallel'). > > Nothing. I'm just against gentooism like `it's two times faster'. > > Do I look to You like a Gentoo user? Yes. You believe that something you don't know is better, because you've read it somewhere. > I've just written down my personal experience with only slightly tweaked > initng with PLD and the result is as follows - boot time, including *all* > services and daemons, speed up dramatically, probably more than 2 times! I don't care about your system. I'm worried about MINE and you can't tell me how to configure it to work. > > If it is better, answer one of my question: how would you start bind in > > relation with quagga? > > I don't know what quogga is, Sad... > but I don't see any service would be > unrunable in the new initng. Without any non-zero interface-interval bind will run, work, but won't listen on zebra set-up interfaces, so won't serve request. > I'm not ignorant so much, to say it doesn't > matter. That seems to be the first con not to make it in PLD, so please > tell me, what is so speciffic bout it and we'll think is it really such an > obstacle. Just tell me how dependencies work and I will know everything. I'm trying to get this information for 4 days. > > How can it work, when NOONE can tell me it's rules. How to start bind? > > service named start :D Manually after every system restart? ;P > > If something works 'free style', and my services can randomly become > > unavailable, it IS bad. > > Jumping to conclussions again? Why randomly become down? Assume that my OSPF dies (it happens with PLD quagga). It's not restarted by supervisor because I've disabled this function (Q1: can in be disabled? Q2: can in be disabled selectively?). Now it's time to rotate logs - postrotate script does service reload and all my services are shut down, because there's no required OSPF daemon running (Q0: how dependencies work, what's configurable?). > Why free style? No rules==free style (I'm asking for these rules since monday, if YOU are so interested in merging this project into PLD why don't you know them?). > Has anyone here written bout random restarts, random services going down. Yes, me. I've written the scenario a few times and got no answer. > It's up to how we write the scripts. That's a large field to discuss. Also > the trinary or larger logic - is it neceserry, how to ensure proper boot > even after errors, what gets restarted and when. Well, if everything is TODO, what can I test or comment? EOT until we'll have something to discuss about. -- GoTaR <priv0.onet.pl->gotar> http://vfmg.sourceforge.net/ http://tccs.sourceforge.net/ _______________________________________________ pld-devel-en mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pld-linux.org/mailman/listinfo/pld-devel-en
