I know I have shared this before. I used to live in Tucson and attended The Free Unix Group (TFUG) meetings. I have been on that list since 1999. Great group of people. They were always willing to help. Interestingly the core groups are very skilled Unix professionals who need no help at all.

Several times during the early days there were discussions about creating a formal organization. We even met one time to discuss it. In the end it was desired that the best organization was not to organize at all - no structure. TFUG still prospers with the help of a couple of the members that volunteer to maintain the list and website. Not sure who owns the domain, however it does keep getting renewed.

I understand the desire to create a 501c3. I also understand that PLUG is doing a great job due to a handful of volunteers.

The handwriting is on the wall - PLUG will probably continue the way it has been for sometime into the future.

Thank you, everyone, for your help and support throughout the years.



On 2014-12-02 12:23, der.hans wrote:
Am 02. Dez, 2014 schwätzte JD Austin so:

moin moin JD,

I'm a lurker on this list and haven't had time to go to an actual plug
meeting in years so take my input as you may... that said PLUG should take
these issues seriously because these are the kinds of issues that tear
apart organizations.

We do take claims of discrimination seriously.

When people take the time to cite specific examples and tell you that they
feel a negative bias towards them the wrong response is to deny their
feelings are valid. A major problem most clubs/organizations have unless

We are not denying feelings. However, we have definitely had false claims
made on list. False accusations are also destructive to a group.

they make a concerted effort not to be is that overtime they get cliquish and non-inclusive; unless an effort is made not to do so long time members
start to feel and act as if it is their organization and can seem like
dictators to new people. I haven't been involved enough in PLUG to know if

The issue is that a few people have joined and demanded to become
dictators telling PLUG what PLUG should do. We don't want a hostile
takeover. If they want to dictate how a group is organized, then they need
to create their own group.

If someone joins a long-established Free Software project's mailing list,
that person should not feel entitled to dictate how the Free Software
project is run or what code should be allowed.

Those who join and help are actively welcomed and encouraged. Some of our
best volunteers have only been around for a couple of years. They found
ways to make a positive difference.

that is happening here but the emails flying around right now make it sound like it could be that way. I've seen these kinds of issues destroy groups before; I'm sure I'm not the only person that has no desire to be a group
that discriminates against women or any other body of people.
Linux is for everyone and has the most diversity of any operating system I
know.

Free Software is a diversity enabler. That's one of the things I love
about Free Software.

As an example, I just received a request to help create an accessibility
session. Off to do something positive.

ciao,

der.hans
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