How can we circumvent the current system and use the current infrastructure?


On 2016-08-29 10:00, Eric Oyen wrote:
ok, I see some issues here.
first off, I am a conservative. I don't hide it but, then, I don't
trumpet it either. As far as I am concerned, politics should have very
little to do with technology or how it gets implemented.
Unfortunately, politics has injected itself into our very lives in the
form of regulations, some of which govern how we can use the net. To
my mind, that is a very bad thing. if you really want to see examples
of how bad it can get, take a look at china, russia, the entire middle
east, and some places in South America.

now that I have dispensed with the politics, I want to get down to how
we work around onerous control of the net. Someone else suggested a
mesh network. That's all fine and good until you want to communicate
outside of the local area. So, how do we expand this idea? This is
where innovation in technology comes into play. It's purely technical
and solves a problem (and no politics involved).

so, there it is, how do we work around this problem and not get
political doing it?

-eric

On Aug 29, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Nathan England wrote:


Amazing how clear every thing becomes when you take a deep breath!... and
burry your head in the sand.


On Monday, August 29, 2016 1:43:22 AM MST [email protected] wrote:
My suggestion?

Taking a deep breath, pouring the Koolaid down the drain instead of drinking
it, and repeating to yourself, "I should really stop jumping on every
conspiracy bandwagon I see."

Seriously, I have little doubt that if we had a republican president and a democratic majority in congress was attempting to block this very same change you would see articles criticizing the block and talking about how government can't do anything right. What's going on now is that instead of a single company holding a government granted monopoly to run the DNS and numbering system there would be a group of companies and organizations doing the same thing -- with a US threat to seize control of it again if
they misbehave.

And as for fears this will lead to balkanization brought up in another post -- there have been threats to balkanize the Internet if control of the DNS
system remained a monopoly held by a single US company or government
agency. This is probably a damned it you do, damned if you don't decision. In the long run it's probably inevitable that no matter which way this decision goes there will be more fracturing. We're probably very lucky to have gone this far with as little fracturing as there has been. I can even see Moral Majority types on the right demanding tighter controls over the Internet in the US to crack down on "adult" content which would pretty much require making a US Internet with closely watched gateways to the outside
(censorship and political correctness are not something unique or
restricted to the right or left, there's just different names attached).
Having thing not being run by one single company operating under a
government granted monopoly might make it just a slight bit harder for that
to happen.

But really, I suppose we should panic. It's not as if the conspiracy
theorists have ever been wrong. After all Texas has been under Martial Law ever since Jade Helm, every Hurricane for decades has resulted in thousands disappearing into FEMA death camps, there's all folks who lost homes to imminent domain to built the Mexi-Canadian superhighway that's exempt from US jurisdiction, and after a decade I still haven't gotten used to these
new Ameros that replaced the dollar...

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