On 2017-09-06 13:48, Carruth, Rusty wrote:
So, I'm impressed by the memory/cpu load that Mr Graham has on his
computer.  And I thought I was a hog... er, I mean heavy resource
user!

It's *usually* not that bad/high. Building one particular Android project causes this older machine (16G, 2 core i5, 500G SSD), to be almost unusable for as long as it takes all the java to compile/link/build. Ordinary Android projects and standard browsing, mail clients, apache, and so forth run fine. I don't know what precisely they did to make that project be an enormous hog. It's not even particularly complicated.

But I agree with him that 16G is getting close to the minimum
required amount if you do much web browsing with lots of tabs (Ok, he
didn't exactly say that, but it was implied)

I probably have fewer tabs open than almost anyone.  9-15 usually.

Steve Litt wrote:
Firefox is a total pig. Most other browsers tie up much less
resources, especially with a lot of open tabs, especially with
challenging javascript encumbered sites.
Also, IMHO when you start to see your browser(s) run slowly, it's
time to start closing tabs. If you have a tab that you're for sure
going to have to have later, bookmark it.

Yes, pretty much. I find that closing tabs helps, but firefox is a collection of code parts written by the lowest bidder and flying in extremely close formation around a memory leak. I try to restart it every day, which seems to work. And I'd guess that people use tabs instead of bookmarks because they retain approximately where you were on a page (good for really long pages), and there's less commitment.

Aaron Jones wrote:
Minimum 32gb ddr4 checking in. [...] thanks to bloat and Lennart
Poettering, I now need 32gb of ram, 8 cores, and a multi terrabyte
ssd just to be effective.  The future is here ladies and gents...
and it is gloriously unoptimized.

Modern programmers don't seem to care about optimizing things. Curiously enough, KDE 5 is fairly snappy for me on a machine with only 8G. Opening a link with gwenview in a dir that contained 17000 links to other images pegged the CPU for a while as it generated thumbnails for all the links and preloaded a bunch of them. I'm not sure how often people do that sort of thing--it was more of a "what happens if I stress this program out a lot?" than anything.

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