On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:37:41 +0530, Viraj Paripatyadar
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> the following are the two replies to a mail under discussion. I
> couldn't help saying something about the replies & so, here it is.
> 
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 17:24:44 +0530, Kaustubh Gadkari
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > Can anyone help me? (Dont try to act too smart and
> > suggest like reading the (incomplete) documentation or
> > taking help of some 'guru'.) I am an end user and care
> > least abt all the technical stuff.
> 
> What is wrong with asking you to do a bit of homework? You want to get things
> working, then try and get it to work. None of here are here to spoon feed
> you.
> 

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
and
http://www.lemis.com/questions.html

*Read* it. 

> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> It is agreeable that the original mail from A G was quite agressive.
> But let me remind all, that his "anger" might have been sparked by
> some previous replies to one of his mails regarding the distro he was
> using.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> About the above reply today: If everyone could try & get things to
> work, there was no need for LUGs all over the world. People come to
> this mailing list becuse they need help with things that they are new
> (or renew :-) )to. There is absolutely no reason why someone should
> spark off a battle of words just because someone is less adept at some
> things than them. Please avoid these mistakes, which create
> unnecessary hard feelings in a community such as this.
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Reading is required because:
Even if someone tells how to solve the problem, one should be able to
understand the solution. If you can't understand the docs/links etc.
you can ask specific question. If you read the above mentioned links,
you will have better understanding about what I am trying to explain.

> 
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:01:39 +0530, Vishal Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 04:43:42 +0100 (BST), A G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Can anyone help me? (Dont try to act too smart and
> > > suggest like reading the (incomplete) documentation or
> > > taking help of some 'guru'.) I am an end user and care
> > > least abt all the technical stuff.
> >

May I suggest something? I you are able to get thing working, can you
write the *complete* documentation?

BTW, has anyone heard calling Microsoft for support? LUG's are better.
Any idea how much it costs for getting support from Microsoft within
2-3 days? And if you are ready to pay the LUG for the support you will
definately get the problem solved the way you want.

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> About this second reply: People don't need anyone telling them to go
> to Windows instead of Linux. They do it by their own free will. I
> believe that we are originally trying to start the flow the other way
> round. With 94% of the world's PCs running Windows, I don't see how we
> can afford to lose even a single user.
> 
> I repeat, people come to the list to get some help learning something
> that they're trying but don't have enough support to. And groups like
> LUGs are here to help them and spread it further. It is simply not
> proper for people like us to be anything less than patient & polite.
> Spreading this new word needs help from people who know it & replies
> like this are certainly not helping.
> 
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I help others because by sharing knowledge, I benefit more than others
There is always something which I gain. And hence spending time to
write this mail. :D

> 
> Please stop doing these things and let us take it further, rather than
> making progress more difficult. I believe that better sense will
> prevail & hope that no one will take this as a personal assault.

Plz. define and elaborate *these things*, *progress*. I hope you don't
take this as personal assult :)


Regards,
Shantanoo

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