On Tue, October 9, 2007 7:33 pm, Daniel Escasa wrote: > Sabi ni Tiger noong Oct 9, 2007 7:36 AM: >> i say, for every non-spam message that goes to your spam mailbox, >> tag it as non-spam. it moves to the right place, and then if >> gmail has an adaptive filter, it'll learn. > > I've already gotten at least five, maybe as many as 15, PLUG messages > in my spam. Have repeatedly tagged them as non-spam. Even with an > adaptive filter, it doesn't learn because the messages have come from > different senders. Might be that the senders involved are using their > own SMTP servers. Thing is, other gmail users may have filters that > label messages to [email protected] but gmail's spam filters > override users' filters >:( -- something I've griped about, to no > avail, on gmail's help googlegroups. I've given up, and just get over > it -- I suggest those who're experiencing the same thing do the same > :) > > As to Yahoo! Mail, its spam rules are *far* better than gmail's, which > is probably why fewer PLUG messages are marked spam. >
i have a little theory why some plug messages are being marked as spam but it hinges on these assumptions: * gmail adaptive filters are global (like what daniel said above) * a significant number of plug subscribers uses gmail and diligently marks spam messages * a significant portion of said subscribers mark those mass generated invitations about "new X social engineering site" that we just have to absolutely and positively try otherwise we will miss the meaning of our lives. * other users around the world mark those invitations as spam. heck i do it even if i know the person who triggered the invitation. * gmail associates other fields in those marked spam messages in recomputing the spam probability of received messages. this unfortunately includes the sender which originates from a single source. put everything together and any mail that comes from "[email protected]" can get a high spam score. my theory has holes but it soothes my spam-hating ego[1]. [1] http://ramfree17.net/capsule/?page_id=37 ciao! -- "Programming, an artform that fights back" Anuerin G. Diaz Registered Linux User #246176 Friendly Linux Board @ http://mandrivausers.org/index.php http://ramfree17.net , when you absolutely have nothing else better to do _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [email protected] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Read the Guidelines: http://linux.org.ph/lists Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
