hi Gary,

Thanks, Good to hear that the suggestion is now in the pipeline. If a shop 
owner/'visor is also PLUG member, he'd be the best messenger to make the 
offer. Pero dapat, may list na siyang ipapakita sa meeting, kahit draft pa 
lang.

Another idea: we can organize some basic Linux training for shop attendants 
and 'visors. 

This one I can volunteer for, when PLUG is ready to organize things.

Regards to all,

Obet


On Thursday 29 November 2007 17:41:06 Gabriel H. Mercado wrote:
> Hi Obet
>
> This is actually more or less the same as a suggestion I made a few months
> ago, not necessarily re printers but providing support for local computer
> shops.
>
> The good thing is that most of these computer shops are organized and have
> periodical meetings.
>
> This is great for PLUG because all we have to do is schedule an opportunity
> to present to them during one of their meetings. This is a regular thing
> that most companies that promote products do - I'm sure they'll let us do
> the same for them because most computer shops are aware of Linux but are
> understandably wary of support for it. Showing up as an organized org will
> help them understand it more and support it.
>
> Incidentally, the local internet stores are very organized and have regular
> meetings as well.
>
> Anyway what I'm saying is, we'll get to this - and other activities, at a
> later date. Right now the priority is to get organized and for members like
> yourself - and your ideas - to get recognized. I wrote a draft schedule
> down and once the site is up I'll post it there.
>
> Gary
>
> On Nov 29, 2007 4:55 PM, Roberto Verzola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the responses to my suggestion:
> > - others who were supportive
> > - the complete list is already online
> > - go hp
> > - how do we go about this
> >
> > Remember that the milieu of my suggestion is computer shops, which are
> > one of
> > the keys for promoting linux, partic. the shop owner, or 'visor, or the
> > ordinary sales person. A customer comes in and asks: this laser printer
> > looks
> > ok, and the price is right for me. will it work with my ubuntu linux?
> >
> > the shop owner can't be expected to go searching the Internet to answer
> > that
> > question. The complete list is a resource for the Linux-advocate, not for
> > them (unless they are actually FOSS advocates).
> >
> > I wonder if there's any shop owner here. But my guess is that the best
> > way to
> > give info the shops will use is to give them a printed list. Anyone asks
> > about Linux. they check the list. If the item is there, then they can
> > show the customer, and then the customer assured and he knows he can run
> > to a group if he has problems.
> >
> > The models actually being sold in the Phils are quite few. Visit the
> > largest
> > shop you know (say, Octagon at Megamall -- one of the biggest I think. I
> > bought my laser printer there. They had 5-6 six brands in the 4-6 thou
> > price
> > range. Only Samsung indicated in their manual Linux compatibility, and
> > the driver in the CD itself didn't work).
> >
> > I did check the openprinting.org site. Its recommended solution was way
> > too
> > complicated. I do remember trying it and giving up halfway to look for a
> > better way.
> >
> > The list I am suggesting should only cover models sold in the
> > Philippines, so
> > it will be smaller and maybe practical to print. Maybe it should cover
> > only
> > hardware PLUG members have actually tried (for further discussion, this).
> >
> > Yes, hp... But the customer wants the Samsung because its cheaper. We
> > still
> > need to answer the question: will it work with Linux?
> >
> > How do we go about this? I suggest that a PLUG volunteer come forward (I
> > know
> > I made the orig suggestion, but I can't be that volunteer sorry) who will
> > take responsibility to move this project forward (have the wiki ready,
> > get needed info from PLUG members, hassle the PLUG directors for some
> > operating
> > funds, form a committee, etc.)
> >
> > My posts are too long, sorry.
> >
> > Regards to all,
> >
> > Obet


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