On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 7:35 PM, John Jason Jordan <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 20:16:23 -0700 (MST)
> Carlos Konstanski <[email protected]> dijo:
>
> > On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> >
> > > Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2009 18:52:20 -0800
> > > From: John Jason Jordan <[email protected]>
> > > Reply-To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;  civil and on-topic"
> > >     <[email protected]>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Now I've done it
> > >
> > > Thanks for the suggestions. I'm still not functional, but I did things
> > > and stuff happened.
> > >
> > > First, still booted into the Karmic live CD I created an ~/.xinitrc
> > > file (none existed before) and put "exec gnome-session" in it. Then I
> > > rebooted to the regular boot option in Grub. Result: No change; that
> > > is, mouse and keyboard worked, but no window manager and no
> gnome-panel.
> > >
> > > Next I booted to Recovery Mode and logged in as root. I installed
> > > xfce4, then edited jjj's .xinitrc file by changing the line to "exec
> > > xfce4-session." Then I switched user to jjj and did cd to my home
> > > folder. And then I did startx. Result: When X came up I had panels and
> > > a desktop, but no mouse or keyboard. There was a popup message "failed
> > > to initialize HAL."
> > >
> > > For my third exercise I shut down (had to use the power button) then
> > > restarted to the regular session. After logging in as jjj I got the
> > > same blank Gnome desktop without a panel or window manager.
> > >
> > > Not sure what this means.
> >
> > What does your HAL policy file for keyboard and mouse look like?
> >
> > /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-X11-input.fdi:
>
> No such file. I do have a /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi file, but
> it looks like a template with nothing real in it.
>
> > Although since the keyboard and mouse work some of the time, I don't
> > think your HAL policy is at fault.
> >
> > The description of your latest steps (above) does not mention removing
> > the xorg.conf file. Have you tried that?
>
> I don't have an xorg.conf file.
>
> > I agree that Xorg.0.log is a great place to look. It's too big to post
> > here, but you could either post it on one of those tinyurl sites, or
> > email it to me and I'll put it up on my web server. It's a great log
> > file because it reports everything that happens when X starts, not
> > just those things that are "errors".
>
> I read through the log file, but it appeared to be just a bunch of
> stuff related to setting up X for my nVidia chip. There was nothing in
> it that appeared obviously wrong.
>
> I think Rogan is on the right track. But figuring out the details and
> how to fix it is beyond my job description. :(
>
> At least I am back in my testing installation and I can work on things
> properly. :)
>
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You can run as root X -configure from the command line while at level 3
(won't work while you're in X itself), in a shell you can type "telinit 3"
and if it auto drop you to a shell, ctrl+alt+backspace to get you there
without fear of X trying to restart until you're done generating a config.
It will generate an Xorg.conf file which you can then place in /etc/X11 ...
perhaps Gnome is trying to initialize your bluetooth devices in some way
that is causing it to barf. I wish had the gear to be able to work along
with you to see if I can cause the same reproduceable failure.
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