Fred James wrote:
> Keith Lofstrom wrote:
>   
>> I fiddled a bit with the "Auxilliary Power Supply DC 12V" input to
>> my FIOS BBU.
>>
>> The barrel connector seems to be a 0.15 inch barrel (approximately
>> 6mm), center positive.  I clipped the connector and cable off an
>> obsolete wall wart, and proceeded.  This is the same power connector
>> as some of the older Nokia cell phones, IIRC.
>>
>> I set up a lab bench power supply with current and voltage limits,
>> and connected it to the cable.  When I increased the voltage above
>> 12.5V , the "Auxilliary Power Source" light on the front panel lit
>> up.  The BBU drew less than 10mA.  I dialed it up to 13.5V, about
>> what a car battery puts out, and set the current limit to 5 amps.
>> Since the unit draws 20W from the line in normal operation, I 
>> assumed that would be enough.
>>
>> I pulled the line power input to the BBU, the unit went on battery
>> as intended.  I pulled the internal battery connection, hoping it
>> would use the auxiliary power instead of the internal battery,
>> and the BBU shut down, without drawing current from the auxiliary
>> jack and bench supply.  It might have been a startup surge, so I
>> tried again with 0.086 farads across the supply.  Again, shut
>> down, no current from the bench supply.  I don't want to try a car
>> battery directly, too much current if something shorts.
>>
>> So - a mystery.  Perhaps there is some protocol on the wire to the
>> approved external device.  For extended life, use an external UPS
>> on the line input, I guess.
>>
>> Keith
>>   
>>     
> Keith Lofstrom
> According to what I have read (online manual for the unit I have 
> (CPL28U12) - you didn't mention your model) ... you are/were almost 
> there ... there is (again, on my model) a button marked "Battery 
> Emergency Use" (next to the Alarm Silence button), which (although 
> Verizon fails to mention it in their documentation) is intended for 
> emergency use as follows ...
>      "Press the button once to use the reserve battery capacity and/or 
> the auxiliary battery capacity after low battery shutdown.  The unit 
> will emit a confirmation beep."
> ... as an additional note, the battery is a 12 V 7.2 AHr battery - I am 
> not sure what that would equal in amps from a bench power supply,
Amp-hours vs. amps isn't entirely meaningless, but it's not terrifically 
meaningful in a battery vs. bench supply shoot-off.  Battery capacity is 
rated in amp-hours, which along with the voltage tells you roughly how 
much energy is stored in the thing.  A battery's ability to deliver 
current is measured in amps.  All else being equal, a bigger amp-hour 
rating indicates a greater ability to deliver current, but there are 
potentially huge differences in construction from one battery to the 
next which drastically affects the capacity vs. current-delivering 
capability trade off.

(Having said that, most sealed gel-cell batteries for equipment power 
use are mostly designed for a minimum 10-hour discharge time, meaning 
you wouldn't want to pull more than 720mA out of that 7.2A-hr battery, 
and you could expect it to last 10 hours in that service).

Putting a bigger battery on there will give you a longer discharge time, 
but may confuse the heck out of any charging circuit they may have built 
into the thing.
>  but I 
> don't think that was the cause of the NoGo in your test, as you didn't 
> mention pushing the Battery Emergency Use button.
> Thanks for the input - that sounds (correct me if I am wrong) as if one 
> were to connect the free ends (say with alligator clips attached?) of a 
> cable of the description you gave above to a fully charged 12 V 7.2 AHr 
> battery (i.e., the same type as the one in the unit itself), and the 
> barrel end of that cable  to the BBU auxiliary port provided, one could 
> be good to go?  First making sure polarity on the cable was correct, of 
> course.
> Regards
> Fred James
>
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