On 17 November 2011 13:12, Rogan Creswick <[email protected]> wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:30 PM, John Jason Jordan <[email protected]> > wrote: >> And then I discovered that if I let it boot to the GUI, even though X >> wouldn't start, I could do Ctrl-Alt-F2 to get to a console, and having >> done so the ethernet was working. Why it wasn't working when I booted >> to Recovery Mode I do not know. But at least now I have the net. > > Guess what?! You probably don't have power management either. > > Back in the Good Old Days of Linux there was a 6-12 month window when > power management and wireless worked through the standard Linux > start-up scripts and other headless mechanisms (eg: actual ACPI > scripts that ran on evens such as the lid switch). For reasons > unbeknownst to me, that configuration logic was moved into GUI apps > such as NM-Applet and the gnome-power-manager; which won't run without > an Xserver. In some sense, it's logical for the configuration of > those aspects to be a per-user decision, so running them /after/ login > makes some sense -- however, that leaves you with a system that can't > connect to the network or sleep unless you have a graphical login. > > I believe that Fedora has integrated at least the nm-applet (or > something similar) into the new X greeter (the graphical login) so > that may be getting far enough, in your case, to start up the network > manager before it crashes, or fails to display. > > In short: you can't expect to have networking or power management > unless you have X running, or you configured it yourself.
I'm sorry, but I have to call FUD here. The reason John didn't have wireless *configured* in his recovery session is because it was.... a recovery session. You'll note he said that he had his wireless configured when using a VT on the main system where X is crashing. I don't know the specifics of Fedora's recovery mode but the general idea is to boot in as minimal environment as possible and let people try and fix things the old fashioned way. I wouldn't be surprised if it's not actually booting the main OS but instead was some initrd like image. NetworkManager is (nowadays at least) a daemon with separate GUI and CLI configuration utilities, it doesn't matter if you have X or not. Regards, Joshua -- Joshua Lock _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
