Can you maybe setup something yourself with some ubiquity radios? You might get lucky and have a friend or something in Line OF Sight that has good internet that is willing to put a dish up to share it.
It's a long shot but it it Hughesnet we are talking about here. On 04/11/2017 07:29 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: > Yes, it is truly a sad solution, but where I live it is the only one. I > often tell people > that it is a good thing that the agriculture people who feed us do not > treat us > like Hughesnet treats them, we would all starve. > > If I get the job I am trying for, I will be moving, Indeed may spend part > of my > time in Costa Rica, wife is down there dealing with family things father in > law > wants us to move in his place, he is now by himself. I would get fibre at > his > home if I do so. All depends on the job I get here. I am working on a field > service job that allows me to live anywhere near a airport on this side of > the > planet. > > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 7:19 PM, Thomas Groman <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> oh gawd *Hughesnet* >> >> >> On 04/11/2017 07:05 PM, Chuck Hast wrote: >>> Oh, ok. Yes, I am looking at getting a WX proof modem, something that >> uses >>> PoE, and directional antennas, put a shack up on the ridge and use solar >> or >>> wind to keep it powered and run the link down to the house using some >> fibre. >>> Actually put up some sort of tower and mount the whole thing in a WX >> proof >>> box, put the radio and antenna up on top of the tower, and hang the box >> at >>> the bottom. The power and media converter will be in that box, perhaps >> an- >>> other box for the batteries below it. Keep the out gas out of the >> equipment >>> box. >>> >>> If I can get the AT&T offer of 250GB for $60/mo I will be very happy as >> I am >>> getting taken to the cleaners with Hughesnet. >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 5:06 PM, wes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I was referring to your idea of putting an LTE gateway up on a ridge. >> Just >>>> thinking of water and sun protection, nothing extraordinary. >>>> >>>> -wes >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 8:36 AM, Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Are you talking about ESD or physically protecting the device? The >> remote >>>>> sensors are wireless so a lightning strike would take them out but >>>> probably >>>>> not do much to the rest of it unless it comes through the 110v line, or >>>> the >>>>> EMP >>>>> was too high, in that case there just is not much you can do about the >>>> EMP, >>>>> it is cheaper to replace the RPi and console that block for the EMP. I >>>> used >>>>> to >>>>> live in lightning prone areas, Costa Rica and Tampa, FL. I have seen my >>>>> fair >>>>> share of lightning damage, one thing I learned was to run all long >>>> network >>>>> runs as fiber rather than Cat5/6. No issues with EMP with the fiber. >>>>> >>>>> The console and RPi are inside the home so they are protected. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:58 PM, wes <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What do you plan to use for weather protection? >>>>>> >>>>>> -wes >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 9:54 PM, Chuck Hast <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Tomás >>>>>>> Sorry I should have got back on and told you I found it, but the >>>>> charge >>>>>>> rate >>>>>>> is only 1.5 amp, the other unit is 2.0 amp. The RPi doing the WeeWx >>>>> stuff >>>>>>> pulls data every 60 seconds, writes to the DB and then sends it out >>>> to >>>>>> WU, >>>>>>> CWOP and Findu.com. When it does that it pulls a wee bit more current >>>>>>> that usual. So I am going to give the other unit a try as I have the >>>>> PSU >>>>>>> for >>>>>>> it. I will also power the Acurite console off of it. If this works I >>>>>> have >>>>>>> a whole >>>>>>> boat load of places I am going to do that trick. Indeed if we do not >>>>> move >>>>>>> out >>>>>>> of this place, I am going to put an RPi up on the ridge above the >>>>> house >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> a AT&T LTE modem on it, AT&T has an offer of 250GB/mo @ $60/mo or 500 >>>>>>> GB/mo @ $100/mo. They just came out with the offer last month, it is >>>>>>> directed >>>>>>> at some states back east, but people are calling and getting the >>>>> offering >>>>>>> every- >>>>>>> where they have put in LTE. At this time I have 50GB @ $110/mo with >>>>>> Hughes >>>>>>> net, and they suck royally. So I can put an RPi up on the ridge and >>>> run >>>>>>> about >>>>>>> 500ft of fibre down to the house let the RPi handle the cell modem >>>> and >>>>>> get >>>>>>> rid of Hughesnet. Whattavampire they are. That one I will power with >>>>> the >>>>>>> "kludge" as it will be a much better option there. May even try some >>>>>> solar >>>>>>> to see how much the batteries will keep up that way. Use an RPi to >>>>>> monitor >>>>>>> that too. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If I get the job I am angling for I will not need to worry about it, >>>>> but >>>>>> I >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> always find something for an RPi to do. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 8:21 PM, Tom <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> Follow the second link, scroll down to product description about >>>> half >>>>>>>> way through the page, and check the Duo-Charge Section: >>>>>>>> Product description >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Offer Type:19200mAH >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> TeckNet PowerTitan T2 19200mAH >>>>> External >>>>>>>> Battery: >>>>>>>> Save time when charging! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Duo-Charge: >>>>>>>> The Duo-Charge function enables charging of the PowerTitan while it >>>>>>>> recharges a connected device such as an iPhone or iPad. >>>>>>>> ....... >>>>>>>> Besides the battery capacity, there does not seem to be functional >>>>>>>> difference between the chargers. Either of them should keep mostly >>>>> idle >>>>>>>> RPi running for at close to a day. I have 6500mAh USB charger >>>> running >>>>>>>> RPi + PWM hat + WiFi dongle + a few sensors on a robot cart for >>>>> about 8 >>>>>>>> -9-hours straight. The Pi lasts much longer than the other battery >>>>> pack >>>>>>>> feeding the motors. >>>>>>>> I should have mentioned it in my original post, I thought that it >>>> is >>>>>>>> obvious: >>>>>>>> If your RPi consumes close to or more than the charging current max >>>>> 2A >>>>>>>> (depending on your actual power supply) - about 10% to power the >>>>>>>> charger = ~1800mA --> your battery pack will not recharge after the >>>>>>>> outage. In such case you would have to come up with different UPS >>>>>>>> solution. >>>>>>>> Best luck, Tomas >>>>>>>> On Sun, 2017-04-09 at 19:23 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote: >>>>>>>>> Tomas, >>>>>>>>> The second selection looks more like what I am looking for but >>>> the >>>>>>>>> first one >>>>>>>>> will certainly work. But I do not see mention of pass through >>>>>>>>> charging or >>>>>>>>> charge while charging. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Went ahead and bought the first selection. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Nat Taylor <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I use something like that second battery to power my pi, it's >>>>> just >>>>>>>>>> a cell >>>>>>>>>> phone charger, I'm not sure what running it while plugged in >>>> does >>>>>>>>>> to it's >>>>>>>>>> life. One could put it on a timer so the power cuts, it >>>> drains >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> battery for a while, then charges back up if that was >>>>> advantageous >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> battery life... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 2:39 AM Tom < >>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are probably other USB power banks which can be charged >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> discharged together. Here are two examples: >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh- >>>>>> Output-PowerZen >>>>>>>>>>> /dp/B0 >>>>>>>>>>> 0FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i= >>>>>> B00FAU7ZB2&pd_rd_ >>>>>>>>>>> r=0JMM >>>>>>>>>>> HXMXK7RYWY9K361K&pd_rd_w=712hM&pd_rd_wg=6mOCV&psc=1& >>>>>> refRID=0JMMHX >>>>>>>>>>> MXK7RY >>>>>>>>>>> WY9K361K >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/TeckNet-Universal-16750mAh- >>>>>>>>>> Output-PowerZen/dp/B00FAU7ZB2/ref=pd_cp_107_1?_encoding= >>>>>>>>>> UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00FAU7ZB2&pd_rd_r=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K&pd_rd_ >>>>>>>>>> w=712hM&pd_rd_wg=6mOCV&psc=1&refRID=0JMMHXMXK7RYWY9K361K> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.amazon.com/PowerTitan-19200mAh3-Port- >>>>>> Portable-Externa >>>>>>>>>>> l-Tech >>>>>>>>>>> nology/dp/B01B534D4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s=wireless&srs=5713662011 >>>>>> &ie=UTF8 >>>>>>>>>>> &qid=1 >>>>>>>>>>> 491729627&sr=1-1 >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.amazon.com/PowerTitan-19200mAh3-Port- >>>>>>>>>> Portable-External-Technology/dp/B01B534D4Y/ref=sr_1_1?s= >>>>>>>>>> wireless&srs=5713662011&ie=UTF8&qid=1491729627&sr=1-1> >>>>>>>>>>> Based on recommendation from this guy: >>>>>>>>>>> http://raspi-ups.appspot.com/en/index.jsp He used older >>>> model >>>>>>>>>>> which is >>>>>>>>>>> no longer available. >>>>>>>>>>> I wonder how smart is the circuit in avoiding the >>>>>>>>>>> charge/discharge >>>>>>>>>>> battery cycles when the power is on - it relates to the >>>> battery >>>>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>>>> Tomas >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 2017-04-08 at 18:57 -0700, Chuck Hast wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Tom < >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> dd nor rsync alone will not be able to do full backup of >>>>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>>>> computer (RPi). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That was what I figured, just wanted to make sure. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The best course of action is to separate the OS from your >>>>>>>>>>>>> data - >>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever your RPi is normally writing - then backup each >>>>>>>>>>>>> separately. >>>>>>>>>>>>> * When you separate the data, you could even store it >>>> off >>>>>>>>>>>>> the RPi >>>>>>>>>>>>> avoiding need for local data backups on RPi altogether. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> The drive has two partitions on it /boot and /. /boot is a >>>>>>>>>>>> vfat, the >>>>>>>>>>>> rest >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>> it is ext4. I supposed that I could stop the service >>>> (weather >>>>>>>>>>>> data >>>>>>>>>>>> capture) >>>>>>>>>>>> back up the files that are critical to the weather >>>>>>>>>>>> station.After the >>>>>>>>>>>> back up >>>>>>>>>>>> is done start the service again. Maybe store them on a jump >>>>>>>>>>>> drive and >>>>>>>>>>>> after the station service is back up and running ship them >>>>> off >>>>>>>>>>>> to the >>>>>>>>>>>> location >>>>>>>>>>>> I will keep the back ups in. I figure that I could do the >>>>> back >>>>>>>>>>>> up in >>>>>>>>>>>> the wee >>>>>>>>>>>> hours of the morning. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> * If you want to keep the data on RPi, you could back >>>> it >>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>> rsync >>>>>>>>>>>>> to separate media (USB) or a network storage >>>>>>>>>>>>> * You cannot back up the OS while you are using it - >>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> is why >>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>> is normally done on a separate computer. It is easier and >>>>>>>>>>>>> faster >>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>> booting your RPi from USB or network and then doing the >>>>>>>>>>>>> backup. >>>>>>>>>>>>> * Perhaps the OS does not need to be backed up often or >>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>> all as >>>>>>>>>>>>> you could simply create separate OS image, even on >>>> another >>>>> SD >>>>>>>>>>>>> card >>>>>>>>>>>>> attached to your Pi. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> All I really need for recovery is the WeeWx db file, WeeWx >>>>>>>>>>>> config >>>>>>>>>>>> file, >>>>>>>>>>>> skins >>>>>>>>>>>> file and the nginx configuration. I could actually keep a >>>>>>>>>>>> separate >>>>>>>>>>>> image and >>>>>>>>>>>> just insert the latest files and quickly swap out the bad >>>> SD >>>>>>>>>>>> card. >>>>>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>> take care of it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I should be able to automate the OS configuration, so that >>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> just run >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> script >>>>>>>>>>>> it looks for the SD card, installs the OS makes sure that >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> parameters >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> I set manually on installation are set correctly, probably >>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>> automate the >>>>>>>>>>>> whole process. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Your backup target/media could be another SD card >>>>> connected >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> RPi >>>>>>>>>>>>> in a SD card reader, that way you could just swap the >>>> cards >>>>>>>>>>>>> .... >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thinking outside of a box - perhaps you need little UPS >>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>> your Pi >>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> avoid regular data corruption altogether. There are some >>>>> USB >>>>>>>>>>>>> charging >>>>>>>>>>>>> batteries which can be charged and used both at the same >>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>> (most >>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>> be either charged or used, not both). Modest battery >>>> could >>>>>>>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>> Pi running for hours. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have been looking for a battery pack that will allow me >>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> let it >>>>>>>>>>>> float >>>>>>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>>>>>> powersupply until power goes away, then it takes over. So >>>> far >>>>>>>>>>>> all of >>>>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>> I have looked at will not switch between >>>>>>>>>>>> charge/float/discharge. I >>>>>>>>>>>> have seen >>>>>>>>>>>> a couple that plug into the pin field on the RPi, but I am >>>>>>>>>>>> trying to >>>>>>>>>>>> keep >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> case clean. I have built up a power supply with a battery >>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> it, and >>>>>>>>>>>> a heavy >>>>>>>>>>>> duty USB dual port power cartridge that supplies the power >>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> need for >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> RPi and the WX station console. It is kind of big, I am >>>>>>>>>>>> certainly >>>>>>>>>>>> looking >>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>> one of the power pack batteries that does not care if it is >>>>>>>>>>>> being >>>>>>>>>>>> charged or >>>>>>>>>>>> not. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope that this is pointing you in the right direction >>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>> particular circumstances. >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes it confirmed most of what I was already suspecting. Now >>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>> I can >>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>> find a nice clean battery pack that meets the above >>>>>>>>>>>> requirement. >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- >>>>>>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. >>>>>>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Chuck Hast -- KP4DJT -- >>>>> Glass, five thousand years of history and getting better. >>>>> The only container material that the USDA gives blanket approval on. >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PLUG mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> PLUG mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> PLUG mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug >> > > _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
