please do not issue sweeping and generalized statements. you are serving
as a bad example to those who have thoughts about pursuing postgraduate
studies. you cannot base your conclusion on one instance, or one
experience with a lousy PhD or MS degree holder. do not deprive the MS and
PhD people the respect that goes with their titles. those are not mere
acronyms but fruit of four years at least of toil in grad school.
if you do not want to go to grad sch, that is your life. don't drag
others down with you.
On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, neuroticimbecile wrote:
> greetings,
>
> my dear fooler, i beg to differ. i agree with boss ian sison. i've worked with
> my share of m.s. (in cs no less) holders since i was a jr programmer for the
> government. during that time, i gained the impression that those people who go
> for post-graduate studies are those who didn't get the point while they were in
> undergrad school.
>
> bulk of the brain work, including flowcharting, data normalization, down to
> coding, etc, were done by the by the jr programmers (mostly 2nd yr undergrads)
> the m.s. holders didn't have a clue. what's worse is, people with acronyms
> suffixed to their names become so full of themselves.
>
> so i promised to myself that i'll never take post-graduate courses ever!
> so far, after almost a decade in the industry (i'm not old, i started very young
> =), i've seen a lot of undergrads who can keep up with, even run circles around
> ms and phd holders. in fact, in the internet-related companies, i thought it
> was the norm to hire smart undergrads instead of acronym suffixed people.
>
> so, those of you out there, DON'T go for it!
>
> peace!
> -eric
>
>
> ps.
> on the other hand, there's doc mana =)
> but he's an exception rather than the rule.
>
>
>
> Quoting fooler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > "Ian C.Sison" wrote:
> >
> > > And in the open source world, that's all that really matters ->
> > efficiently
> > > running optimized, functional, and maintainable code. You don't need
> > to submit
> > > any resume or diploma to anyone, nor seek anyone's respect simply by
> > the number
> > > of acronyms that are appended to your name.
> > >
> > > In my book the number of PhDs in some dorks name means
> > > absolutely zip. When i get to see the output of his work (whatever it
> > is),
> > > that's when the (dis) respect begins or ends.
> >
> > this is all depends where did you get your PhD, try to compare a
> > harvard, mit, berkely
> > phd graduates and other well known respective school in the states
> > versus here in the
> > philippines that have a phd. try to know (his educational background)
> > who's that chief
> > technology officer behind novell's technology, try to know who are the
> > people behind
> > microsoft's technology. those people are not an ordinary people and try
> > to compare their
> > works versus to non-phd.
> >
> > well as we all know, formal education with proper training (not by
> > fly-by-night training
> > with other schools) is advantageous than to those who know how to
> > optimize their code
> > (with lack of proper education like algorithms, theories, etc). the
> > problem with these
> > geeks (non-phd), they are capable to have a phd degree but they are
> > *tamad* to get one.
> > yes they can code, but if they want to work with the big companies,
> > these big companies
> > rather get a phd degree than those talented non-phd person because these
> > companies are
> > capable to pay to a phd degree holder for the price they want and have
> > a better output
> > than to non-phd person..
> >
> > one good example is the creator of love bug virus, well some of them say
> > he's talented
> > daw (actually its a kidde script, may kasibihan na.. kahit alikabok lang
> > yan, mapupuwing
> > ka din) and others dont, with proper education and thats include moral
> > values, he wouldnt
> > do that. actually may narinig ka ba na phd gumawa ng kalokohan? that is
> > why profesionally
> > speaking they are pretty much prefer to get phd to non-phd technical
> > person.
> >
> > actually im not a phd. i must admit and i realized that its better to
> > get one kaso lang
> > tinatamad na ako. so those of you out there, go for it!
> >
> > fooler.
>
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