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On Fri, 20 Oct 2000, neuroticimbecile wrote:

> greetings,
> 
> my dear fooler, i beg to differ.  i agree with boss ian sison. i've
> worked with my share of m.s. (in cs no less) holders since i was a jr
> programmer for the government.  during that time, i gained the
> impression that those people who go for post-graduate studies are
> those who didn't get the point while they were in undergrad school.
> 

When you do take postgraduate studies, the assumption is you're more
interested in doing research than in trying to do work in the real world.  
Your deciding to take postgraduate studies of any sort is a further
admission on your part that you want to further narrow your field of
study, and in some ways this can be a bad thing because you tend to get
out of touch with fields that are not closely related to your field of
expertise.  The tendency here is that you wind up knowing more and more
about less and less, but I don't think that's enough to say that you
"didn't get the point" when you were an undergrad.

> bulk of the brain work, including flowcharting, data normalization,
> down to coding, etc, were done by the by the jr programmers (mostly
> 2nd yr undergrads) the m.s. holders didn't have a clue.  what's worse
> is, people with acronyms suffixed to their names become so full of
> themselves.
> 

Admittedly, the problem with having a postgraduate degree is that it makes
you lose touch with the real world, and narrowing your knowledge down to a
certain degree makes it difficult for you to do anything outside of that
narrow field of expertise.  And makes you almost completely useless for
doing anything other than research in the field of your choice.  These MS
people are clueless for a reason: what you're asking them to do is delve
outside their narrowly-defined field of expertise, something that
militates against everything they did in graduate school.

Getting an MS or PhD means narrowing your field of knowledge.  At the rate
at which knowledge is growing, this kind of specialization is perhaps an
inevitable, necessary consequence.  No one person can claim to know it
all, least of all an MS or PhD holder, and I don't think that the fact
that some of them forget this and try to do things they weren't trained
for, and perhaps were even trained against is enough to condemn the taking
of postgraduate studies.  Take postgraduate studies if what you want to do
is teaching and research.  If you want to do something else, then forget
it.

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