Additional: To be more comprehensive, please read this
http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0106.html#6

--- likot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> --- joel realubit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > under Win2k (and presumably XP), raw sockets can
> be
> > created where the
> > programmer can hardcode the IP address header of
> the
> > packet himself. under
> > win9x/nt OTOH, this "feature" isn't supported by
> the
> > winsock api, and
> > consequently the programmer cannot specify the IP
> > addie header in a packet.
> > i've heard of ip spoofing on win9x/nt (primarily
> > from irc), but i don't know
> > how they manage it -- but i'm sure it isn't from
> raw
> > socket programming!
> 
> it's just open wingates, socks 5 and irc
> bouncers/proxy and sometimes weird
> hostnames/subdomains like
> i.dated.joyce.jimenez.sa.blah.com) which people
> "mistakenly" calls ip spoofing
> 
> 
> > now, when XP does hit the market, with its
> COMPLETE
> > raw sockets support...
> > Gibson can be O.A. (over acting) in some of his
> > rants, but he does have a
> > point in that regard...
> > 
> > joel
> > 
> > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
> > Version: 3.12
> > GCS GIT>GCM d-(+) s: a C++(++++) UL++>++++>$ P+
> > L+>++++$
> > E--- W+ N o-- K- w+++$>-- O- M- V- PS !PE Y+@
> PGP(-)
> > t++@ 5+@
> > X-- R tv(--) b++++ DI++(++++) D+ G e++>++++ h---
> > r+++ y?
> > -----END GEEK CODE BLOCK---
> > 
> > >
> > > You can read Bruce Schneier's response here:
> > >
> > > http://www.counterpane.com/crypto-gram-0106.html
> > >
> > > --
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> > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK-----
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> > K- w---
> > > O- M-- V- PS+ PE Y+ PGP++ t+ 5 X+ R tv+ b+++
> DI++
> > D+
> > > G e++ h! r++ y+
> > > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------
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