There's always Borland Kylix that can take over VB just in case you want to have VB and Access replaced...
Regards/ Jerome ----- Original Message ----- From: "Federico Sevilla III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 7:46 PM Subject: Re: [plug] GUI and UP CS > On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 at 05:57, R Feria wrote: > > Just want to react on the statement that Jijo's statements regarding GUI > > programming. Although from the perspective of HCI, having an intuitive > > user interface is important, I do not, however, advocate Windows for > > this purpose. There is always a CHOICE. > > I don't think I ever stated anything contrary to that. I agree with you > 100%. The reason why I want to use something cross-platform is to ease > migration of our company from Windows to Linux. > > > Anyway, UP DILIMAN CS students (for the past three/four years)have not > > had the luxury of being taught Linux or using Linux for that matter. > > Yes, it is the fault of the faculty and I am glad that I was not part of > > that (was on-leave). > > In UP Manila among us CS majors Linux is only starting to get heard now. > This is, unfortunately, not because of the faculty (although the IMS and > MIU of PGH do a lot of Linux-based development, news of which finds its > way to the upper class CS majors). It is largely thanks to us students. > Recently I helped set up a Linux box for the OS lab classes. It's ironic > how I won't be taking the OS class until next year, and yet my > contribution to their class was significant. > > > Now that I am back - the students are forced to learn Linux -- most, if > > not all, their application development are in non-Windows specific > > technology. > > I wish you could help us out in Manila. No no, I wish you taught in > Manila, instead. Hahaha. Believe it or not, as of last sem, database lab > classes were forced to use Microsoft VisualBasic and Microsoft Access for > their project. My girlfriend's ahead of me CS-majors-wise, so I know. I > was puking my guts all over the floor when I found out. :( > > > Although we cannot discount the fact that we have Windows 2000 and XP > > (yes, legal licenses) in our labs, we now have Linux installed also. > > Development is in Java and Linux so they still get GUI but > > non-Microsoft. ;-) > > We're starting to do Java now. They're force-introducing it in our data > structures and algorithms class. I don't agree with their moves. I think > one should allow the student the freedom to pick the programming language > to use for classes that are by nature language-independent (ie: data > structures and algorithms). Or maybe this is just me and my puny little > mind. > > > In line with this, major applications within Diliman are being migrated > > from Windows-based to Linux based starting with the Computerized > > Registration System (hopefully, the new version will be up in time for > > next year's second semester) and the Faculty Information System. > > Cool!!! :) > > > Who says Linux is dead in Diliman? ;-) > > Maybe I should transfer. But I think it's too late. Ah alam ko na, I'll > take my MSc there!!! :) :) > > --> Jijo > > -- > Federico Sevilla III :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Network Administrator :: The Leather Collection, Inc. > GnuPG Key: http://jijo.leathercollection.ph/jijo.gpg > > _ > Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph > To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
