>From: "Marvin T. Pascual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>I don't think EB pa rin tayo at puro chit-chat lang.  How about to discuss 
>about
>the status of the org, how can we contribute to the org in making it more
>productive as officers and volunteers, projects, etc?


some ideas (posted with all due respect):

1. Pinoy sourceforge seems like a good idea.
    -  Sourceforge allows you to post your projects even if it
       is in the planning, alpha, etc. stage (of course after it
       has been approved)  From the posts, I see that there's
       people here who have code in the planning, or alpha/beta
       stage - and maybe they could post it in the Pinoy
       sourceforge (if it becomes a reality).  I see posts from
       William telling us he's got this What'sUp like Perl code,
       maybe he should post it - to benefit others as well as
       to make it really open-source.  I see posts from Orly,
       telling us he's got this code (something to do with
       cell phones) .. maybe he should post it - to make it
       available to other people - di ba that's the spirit of
       Open-source - make it available to others so that they
       can use it or improve on it?  A Pinoy sourceforge would
       then be a sort of centralized locatin to post codes.

2. Re-evaluation of PLUG mailing list.
    -  after the incident with A. Sy - maybe we should evaluate
       what should be posted on the PLUG mailing list - and what
       to do with violators of the rules.  And should PLUG be
       a moderated or an unmoderated list?  What should be the
       actions of the moderators - should they immediately ban
       someone - or should a poll be taken first?  What are the
       punishments?  etc. etc.   Should Win vs. Linux be a
       proper thread in PLUG?  Should anonymous posters be
       allowed in PLUG?  etc. etc.

3. PLUG web site.
    -  I saw the 'draft?' of the new PLUG web site - nice
       design.  BTW, again my comments are posted with all due
       respect and not meant to disparage or step-on someone.
       IMHO, the PLUG web site should be made using Open-Source/
       Free software - all elements - from the HTML pages, to
       the graphics - to the backend database/scripting language,
       etc.  Here we are in PLUG - laughing/disparaging MS
       because Hotmail's front-end servers are Win2K but backend
       servers are FreeBSD.  Let's not do that with the PLUG
       web site - do it all in Linux.  Let's not say do it like,
       the front-end (graphics, HTML) were done in Windows, but
       the back-end (db, scripts) in Linux.  Let's make it done
       purely in Linux - then document it (screenshots, list of
       tools, timeline, etc.) - this alone would make
       a very good case study - on how to make a web site using
       only Linux and Open-source/Free softwares.

4. Local Linux case studies
    - I think Eric Pareja posted something like this.  I think
      there should be a page like this on the PLUG web site,
      detailing how Linux is being used successfully in
      the corporate setting.  Q-Linux I think should post how
      they are using Linux on their place - they being a
      Linux solutions provider.  Inter.Net should also post,
      as well as Evoserve.  Others too?  UP Manila?  Ateneo?
      etc.  I singled these orgs out - because I know that there
      are people in this list (active too) from this
      organizations.  Again no disrespect meant.  We say that
      we use Linux all the time - then tell the world how -
      we say that Linux is a good alternative or replacment
      for Windows - then tell it to the world - write a
      case study of your organization.  And I think that the
      people in those organizations would not find that so
      hard - I've seen their posts - they are very, very
      good in written English.


These are all I can think of for now.  Again, no disrespect
meant to anyone.  This was posted with all due respect.


Regards,

--
Joshua L. San Juan  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>







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