--- Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Huh?  What am I missing, here?   To the best of my
> 
my fault i misunderstood what you said, reraad your
post.

> Point of information for you:  Saying "mbox format"
> _doesn't_ imply
> /var/spool/mail.  The MDA might be configured to use
> ~/Mail/mbox, or any 
> of a variety of alternatives.  

yes i know, did my post said anything like that?

The assumption to the
> contrary is a
> Bernsteinism.  

did you assumed that i was thinking like that?



> 
> > (IMHO maildir is the way to go )
> 
> Gratuitous advocacy noted without further comment. 
> I figure admins will 
> make their own decisions based on their own needs.

ofcourse everyone is entitled to use what ever he/she
wants as long as it fits his/her needs.


> In rhetoric, we call this fallacy "begging the
> question".  This means
> basing your conclusion on a doubtful premise that is
> carefully unexamined.

in context, i was refering to security design 
having 14 exploits in 1996-1997 and 2(?!?) not so
recent ones says something about the security design
in sendmail. 
Exploits that can take over the machine running
sendmail  - have you heard of such exploits  with
postfix and qmail? 


> 
> Please note:  "Correct design" is _not_ defined as
> "Our Hero said this
> is the only acceptable way."

Gratuitous criticism noted without further comment. 


> Painfully and very manually, I wouldn't doubt:  I
> must say that writing
> one's own substitute for stdio.h is a bitigure 
> pathological.  

Gratuitous criticism noted without further comment. 

Ofcourse you already know the reason right?

 

> 
>
> Huh?  Please explain.  You referred me to
> qmail-queue.  Here's the
> manpage: 

oh i was referring to qmail-queue fix (queue-fix) and
qmail-queue repair ( queue-repair ) at www.qmail.org

> If you're talking about some wacko program that can
> _export_ qmail's
> inode-encoded spool contents so that a backup or
> copying program can get
> at them, then that's half a loaf, 

nopes

 I
> finally escaped
> having to administer the damned thing professionally
> in late 1999.
> Hated it.  

oh then thats your problem i'd been administering your
so called damned thing professionally since l997 
and i loved it. ( that doesn't mean anything really no
one is wrong here, you are entitled to use what ever
you want )

> > let us just clear this thing up, most people think
> that you _can't_
> > modify qmail's source which is wrong.  [...]
> 
> But I _don't_ think that.  Nor did I say so.

but this was not for you, ( and that's a good thing
cause i know you know more ) this is to inform those
people who will read your post, for your information
there was a post in this list saying  you can't modify
qmail.

> 
> And what I said before _is_ precisely (and
> concisely) the issue.  What
> you're bringing up is a tiresome, time-wasting red
> herring.

and yes it's tiresome, time-wasting redherring

> He forbids distributing modified qmail under _any_
> name without special
> permission.  

thanks for correcting me on that. 

 
> 
> And, absent some new permissions grant by Dan
> Bernstein or a successor
> copyright holder (e.g., an heir), it's _exactly_ the
> dilemma that the
> entire qmail and djbdns user communities will find
> themselves in, some
> day.  Avoiding such situations, and favouring the
> right to fork as a
> general remedy, is the main (pragmatic) advantage of
> open source.

i agree on this, no explanation needed, but im being
positive and hopefully things will change in the
future.

Dek
likot at yahoo dot com

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