hmm yur right on hotmail, but I bet there are 
still a lot of domains out there that just forwards
mail withouht revealing if a addy is valid or not
(well my sendmail relay is just that, it wont tell
if a mail is valid or not).  which is the accepted
practice?


--
hotmail
--
telnet mx4.hotmail.com 25
Trying 65.54.254.151...
Connected to mc4.law16.hotmail.com (65.54.254.151).
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mc4-f38.law16.hotmail.com Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 5.0.2195.5600 
ready at  Wed, 26 Mar 2003 14:28:49 -0800 
hello x    
500 Unrecognized command
helo x
250 mc4-f38.law16.hotmail.com Hello [207.245.115.19]
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
550 Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable

----
another example (domain X'd out)
----
telnet XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxXX smtp
Trying XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Connected to XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (199.4.154.3).
Escape character is '^]'.
220 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXSMTP
helo x
250 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
mail from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
250 ok
quit
221 XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

i'm pretty sure theres no 20938432999 there...




jondz

> On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Hagibis Fan wrote:
> ..
> > Hows postfix going to know for sure if the account really exists, a lot
> > of the mail exchangers just accept mail bound for a domain....most of em
> > dont even reveal wether a mail is valid or not (which if enabled, is a
> > good way to harvest addresses)?
> 
> it doesn't use VRFY. it uses RCPT TO.
> it works with hotmail etc.
> 
> 
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